Ceremonial Banner Providers

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Hi, hive mind!

I’m trying to provide suppliers of banners with correct specifications in a bid to reduce the number of units purchasing really random (and incorrect) unit banners.
I count my own unit among them — we previously spent good money on a ceremonial banner and the badge is incorrect…

Units spend a lot on these, so it’s important to me that they’re able to spend that money with confidence.

I’d be grateful if people could post known banner suppliers here so I can make contact with as many as possible and tell them what our units need, rather than leaving units to fumble around and be offered close approximations.

I know that NewtonNewton is an incredibly high-quality, responsible, and responsive supplier that takes great pride in making sure they offer exactly what units need, but as we can’t mandate a supplier, I want to ensure as many bases are covered as is possible to prevent wasted money should a unit go elsewhere.

Help fleshing out a contact list would be gratefully received!

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Printed Cadet Banners – Cadet Kit Shop which is a division of Ammo & Co bought 2 from them for 2 different Sqn’s

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Based on who the RBL have recommended in the past, the list is

Newton & Newton

AA Flags

Newton & Newton have been known as the Rolls Royce for banners/Standards and you have already identified, AA Flags I have only seen in the RBL Ceremonial Handbook - but they do show ATC and ACF Standards on their website

unfortunately, i think you are asking how long is a piece of string - the list is endless and includes the usual suppliers like https://www.cadetdirect.com/atc-ceremonial-standards and Cadet Kit Shop

as well as randoms found via Google

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I propose that any such list, as well as being somewhat vetted, is kept to makers not resellers as much as possible.

Even if we confirm the manufacturer a reseller uses, there’s no guarantee they don’t change source later.

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Zephyr flags are good shout - high quality & use to have the military contract until a few years ago,

Also use to the burgees & paying off pendants when RN ships decommissioned.

They also make the flags Appliqué rather than just printing.

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@OC.1324 might be worth contacting these companies to get them to remove the tassels from the product

EDIT looks like it’s all but Marching Band Supplies who include tassels

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Just had a quick look at the recent ATC 85 photos & posts.

The majority seem to now have tassels so it looks like convention has effectively changed (including on Wing & Region banners).

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Flying Colours Flagmakers are my go-to for cadet banners.

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This ‘regional badge’ was also in one of those posts, but that doesn’t make it right:

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Thanks for this comprehensive contribution! It’s incredibly helpful.

I think I may do a secret shopper eventually so I can also annotate any list with an indicator of who actually sticks to the authorised specs.

I’m actually visiting NewtonNewton on Wednesday to check it all out.

Apparently they do good training banners too!

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At ~£500 a pop, that secret shopper could prove mighty costly!

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One thing that might be worth referencing is the centre of the ATC logo should be white.

A lot of computer graphic design interprets this as “transparent” leading to incorrect blue centres.

Perhaps the centre on designs can be tweaked to an “off white” so computers don’t over write it.

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Secret browser?

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You’re absolutely right. I think many make .png files without a background too.

I have the official digital ATC badge to distribute and even NewtonNewton have already (happily) updated the falcon in their banners.

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