Probably, but then again they are completely different things. One is Corps in the British Army and the other is a cadet training centre in Surrey.
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however to be a CTT instructor they will only consider applications from SNCOs[/quote]
Now, I am not 100% sure what you mean by CTT is I am not in the ATC, but I would be surprised if the SASC was responsible for that one.
Now, I am not 100% sure what you mean by CTT is I am not in the ATC, but I would be surprised if the SASC was responsible for that one.[/quote]
CTT (Central Training Team) is something that has appeared and taken/been given responsibility for all things bang stick in the ATC and it seems to be a SNCOs club. They advertised through Bader for instructors and specified SNCOs only. Given this represents less than a third of available staff in the ATC, does come across as a bit cliquey.
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CTT (Central Training Team) is something that has appeared and taken/been given responsibility for all things bang stick in the ATC and it seems to be a SNCOs club. They advertised through Bader for instructors and specified SNCOs only. Given this represents less than a third of available staff in the ATC, does come across as a bit cliquey.[/quote]
Ah I get you. I doubt that rule would have anything to do with the SASC. I think it is just the “done thing” militarily speaking as all “training teams” appear to be staffed by SNCOs with the odd officer in charge here and there.
^^^^yes…that was what i was getting at
CTT are trained by Frimley park and it is FP who set the standard…there was 12 intructor places for CTT upon its birth, but only 12 actually applied and went to FP.
by the end of the course only 3 survived/passed the process and are the “elite” having gone through the FP system and as such emulate, rightly or wrongly, that standard in the ACO
Given that they only require a handfull of instructors, does that really matter?
Given that they only require a handfull of instructors, does that really matter?[/quote]
I just think that there are Officers and CIs out there who are far more experienced and knowledgable and better able to instruct than just SNCOs, but we’ll never know.
Saying they are attempting to emulate Frimley Park, is a bit like the “we’ve always done it like that” war cry, which normally gets a negative response.
If we hear the “we’ve always done it like that” war cry, we shouldn’t be afraid to ask - Can we do it better?
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I just think that there are Officers and CIs out there who are far more experienced and knowledgable and better able to instruct than just SNCOs, but we’ll never know.
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i’ll say it again
all CFAVs can become SAAIs
as such these experienced and knowledgeable Staff can instruct
however they wont be able to instruction on the SAAI course…ie wont be an instructor’s instructor…
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I just think that there are Officers and CIs out there who are far more experienced and knowledgable and better able to instruct than just SNCOs, but we’ll never know.
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i’ll say it again
all CFAVs can become SAAIs
as such these experienced and knowledgeable Staff can instruct
however they wont be able to instruction on the SAAI course…ie wont be an instructor’s instructor…[/quote]
On that point a trick is being missed due to myopia and misguided reasoning/thinking.
I think time away is the answer here, I left the ATC after 6.5 years in 2010 to purse a career and returned as a CI last September. I found having time where cadets wasn’t a major factor in life put alot of what I thought about its importance into perspective. Life is much bigger then the cadets, knowing this is good experience in its self to bring back to a Sqn.
You’ll also find that moving squadrons is a real eye opener. I went from a very disciplined strict squadron to one that was much smaller and run more like a youth group. After some getting used to, I can see that what might be the norm at one unit simply wouldn’t work at another!
The ACO is bigger then one Sqn as a cadet moving to a staff role i feel the best way to experience this is through seeing cadets at a different Sqn. In my case it was one at the other end of the country!