I’m thinking MIA or something similar then 
you mean MCI now 
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Yep, my bad. Bloody NGBs changing certificate names!
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Fair enough, was just going to help you try and construct a better business case! Feel free to PM me if you like.
If it is MCI I could definitely see a good business case! Just need an agreed return on investment.
I’m guessing that the ‘nicheness’ is probably the source of the objection - ‘why should we fund something which the organisation doesn’t really need?’ or some similar argument.
Often people don’t get that we need a sprinkling of ‘niche’ qualifications to allow people to be pushed into different, more challenging environments, and thus develop better leaders all round (and in some cases inspire them to get their own qualifications).
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They said the same thing when I tried to get my OC1 3* Whitewater!
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To be fair, I can see why with this one… 
Not a problem now though, as it’s all generic ‘White Water Leader’ at the 4* level so just tip up in your OC1.
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That’s what I did in March, shame is we got called off after a day on Bala.
I have read this and many other threads on this forum as a way of preparing for my training and service in RAFAC and quite frankly I am becoming more disillusioned with every thing I read. It seems to me that there are more people on here who delight in ridiculing and putting down genuinely interested and well intentioned volunteers than those who give constructive advice. You have had a very rough ride over your post my friend and I think it is time those with delusions of grandeur started to help by giving constructive advice rather than berate and ridicule those who ask the way forward. Surely it is for everyone in the organisation to encourage and guide those who are asking, I can see why RAFAC is having problems retaining staff/volunteers, I for one have started to ask myself if this is what I want from an organisation that I am prepared to give my time and experience.
Not sure where anyone has been ridiculed for asking the way forward?
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Spelunking?? Yeah. You can keep that.
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it wasn’t actually! I’ll PM you 
If there’s anything you’ve spotted that you think breaches the AUP then feel free to flag it. I know that there are things that have been amended or removed in this and most other threads, but sometimes things get missed. I’m sure @anon9987823 would have flagged anything they took exception to here.
This thread is an amalgamation of a couple of different topics under the same banner - and there is A LOT of good information here (even within the first 10 replies), as there are on most threads.
To avoid derailing the topic too far, please feel free to send me a message if you have any queries or concerns. You should certainly feel welcome here (I know this isn’t your first post, but welcome to ACC) and I hope you stick around and stay involved.
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@oldstarter the other thing to remember is the negativity bias.
We often talk about negative things as that’s what people often do (rightly or wrongly) but at the end of the day we are all (mostly) still in the organisation! So it can’t really be that bad!
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Indeed.
We welcome all.
Even miserable so and so’s like me.
The org is good on the whole. What you will find on here are a lot of good people arguing over the minutiae details trying to improve things in their own way. Sometimes we ‘come to blows’ other times we sit and drown our sorrows. But most the time it’s a favourable working environment for gathering info, and doing the best we can in a shoddy world.
Welcome on board.
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I have posted a reply on the thread that covers my views I hope it addresses the questions of the other participants.
Many thanks
MCI is expensive though, and I guess as an OC I’d be keen to support it, but I’d query the return the unit would get for the investment. Small scale activities, only really new thing would be outdoor leading from a cadet point of view, useful at Corps.
I’ve a couple of my staff looking at ML winter training, having done mine many moons ago I don’t see that it would be worth spending all of squadrons money on what would essentially be 1 winter skills course a year most likely.
We are looking at funding a Local Cave Mine leader for a staff member too.
Suppose it depends what it is.
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for things like MCI / 4* sea / Winter ML / (and the equivalent mountain bike, and caving, etc), I actually don’t think Sqns should pay - I’d advocate a Regional or Corps AT development fund
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I would agree, some sort of central training fund for the top tier stuff, but with an expectation of some contribution from the staff member too.
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