Appointment of Senior Volunteer Advisor

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Hardly.

They have an employed hard of CCF, that person sits on the Command Board and is outranked by all of his ATC colleagues and now by an ATC volunteer.

If we truly are one organisation it’s not unreasonable for all members of the Command Board to be of equal rank.

The only issue I would be unsure of which I’m sure one of our CCF contributors might be able to shed some light on is, what are the ranks of the CCF Army and Navy equivalents? Would making Wing Commander CCF a Group Captain to have equality in the RAFAC cause inequality in the CCF?

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The CCFRN equivalent is a Commander, IIRC, but I’m trying to remember if there is a direct Army equivalent - each Bde has a Col Cadets.

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I think the head of the SCC is only a captain, IIRC

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Navy Captains are the equivalent of our Group Captains, not 3-pip Army Captains i.e equivalent to Flight Lieutenants

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time to wheel out my favourite rank structure poster

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And indeed many Captains are not Captains

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That is a great poster!

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Correct. I am comparing against an Air Commodore however, hence my “only” :grin:

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I prefer the version with civil service grades on as well. If only because of the ridiculous comparison they use.

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ah, I hadn’t seen that version!

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Applied for a c2 job tonight… Fake Sqn Ldr Corbs!

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Your nightmare wexo moving on then? Lolz

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I know of a CFAV who’s a B1, and reminds their WExO of this when they want things done… :joy:

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Hero.

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I’ve avoided playing the B1 card so far (although have come close) with cadet things. But have played it a couple of times when dealing with Army Legal Service talking out their behind (the natural starting position for ALS below Lt Col) when dealing with them at work.

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Does that map onto the EO/SEO/HEO structure at all?

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EO read Band D, SEO read C1 and HEO read C2.

Interesting how the E grades have been removed, previously E grades were deemed to to at SNCO level. Don’t think SNCOs liked being aligned to clerical grades

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Why is SAC in the Lance Jack row?
Surely SAC OR-2 L/Cpl OR-3

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Also a conversion table (which looks sensible) here: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/grade-structures-civil-service

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