AP1358c Update to reflect CFC


#308

And specific descriptions of the squadron identification badge


#309

Hasn’t the hype come from here, though, and various members getting hot under the collar?


#310

That, and promises/rumours/blatant lies we were told.


#311

At least there is now some authority for the SNCOs who’ve been telling me to wear the purple one…

Must find what I did with it!


#312

We may have a drawer full. If so I can post you one when I check the stores in the new year


#313

Only if they can have someone read it to them…


#314

That is confusing! So am I right in saying that they can only be light or dark blue, with maroon or white piping and cuffs?
What is a contrast panel?
So no more black or purple ones?

But I can wear a vest when I am doing a field gun completions!!!
Where can I sign up for a field gun completion?? Do you start with bits and try and complete it?


#315

I think @steve679 meant a field gun competition. Search them on YouTube, they’re more of a matelot thing though


#316

Always had strange ways in the RN, but it was/is thought to be one of the mist dangerous team sports in the world.


#317

We do field gun displays all the time.

It’s the category of activity under Misc or PIPE i use when none of the suggested activities fit.


#318

If you NSP it first it’s a bit less dangerous.


#319

A long while ago I met a guy in his 60s who was a ex Fleet Clearence Diver who said he failed to get in the team as he couldn’t do the required number of sit ups with a 10 lb weight on his chest in a given time. Put him in swimming pool and he was liek a shark in the water, so fast and so comfortable.

They’re all mad I tell you.


#320

Topic


#321

Consider the IACE top a good example.

A dark blue body, with contrast panels (side bits) in light blue with white piping


#322

Looks cheap and well yuk.


#323

There’s a chap who makes ‘cadet field guns’ which are a CCF RN approved activity. The gun barrel is wood with an aluminium cover, so it’s much lighter than the real thing. We have two and use them as a tri-service house competition activity - it’s an excellent teamwork and fitness task.

While you can still trap fingers, run over toes etc., there aren’t the back problems, or broken bones if you drop it. Only downside is, they are hand made and cost around £2.5k each…

PM me if you want more info. Unfortunately as they are seen as a matelot activity I guess wing/region wouldn’t pay for them and squadrons wouldn’t be able to afford!


#324

I don’t think you understood my joke! We have a drop down menu of things which fall under Public Events, the list is pretty poor and doesn’t cover half of what we do, so because I have to select one, I select the funniest one.


#325

yours for £10 via the RIAT merchandise shop…

Link to shop

these shirts have been standard for IACE to wear casually for a good couple of years…


#326

Keep in mind that the whole reason No 3A has appeared in our dress regulations is because the RAF are including it in theirs to ratify the long-standing practice of wearing Branded polo shirts with No 3.
The Careers teams, Motivational Outreach Teams, STEM teams, &c have been doing it for a long time and now there’s an official regulation for it.
We have merely followed suit.

I think it’s a sensible move. There are definitely occasions when we work local events in No 3, where No 3A would be preferable.

The old “but it’s private purchase so they can’t tell us what to buy” argument is as invalid here as it is when applied to combats.
It’s perfectly simple - nobody is forcing individuals nor Squadrons to go out and buy approved shirts. If Squadrons want to wear No 3A then they will wear it in accordance with the regs. It is a mode of uniform after all.

What about those Squadrons which have their own “Sqn Brand” and colours which do not meet the regulations? Tough.
Squadrons do not operate their own brands. We all come under one brand, whether people like it or not.
By all means, have something “local” for civilian wear or sports kit if desired, but when wearing a uniform one should expect to conform to the standard set across the whole organisation.
We wouldn’t expect a Squadron to decide that the blue uniforms don’t fit their “Sqn brand” and thus to be permitted to wear other colours.


#327

Not as simple as that though is it? We’ve worn what was effectively No3a for at least 10 years because it’s more practical and suitable for some of the events we do with fundraising in particular.

We bought and invested in t shirts and jumpers, wording and badges. We paid for that before someone, somewhere, got a bee in their bonnet and tried to force rules on us.

I’m not going to follow it because it’s ridiculous, it doesn’t take into account that we’ve already paid a considerable some of money to do so and we did so in good faith. A lack of foresight and planning on the part of some warrant officer somewhere doesn’t constitute a problem for me.