No clue! Also, bizarre that it appears that the ATC crest is on their sign above the entrance, but the photo is hard to see.
Are there army regiments that use numbers for their companies rather than letters?
Just thinking it might be a parent regiment thing - perhaps cavalry or artillery (or even Engineers?)
I think some of the guards regiments number their companies, but those distinctions are usually at coy / area level. Detachments are platoons or troops, which tend to be numbered anyway (though not exclusively), but I’ve never seen it in the ACF before.
Then again, my old cadet battalion had lettered companies, a numbered (guards) company, and a sqn: so I guess there isn’t a standard format.
The ATC would be the same if left to it’s own devices
Appears to be a County/Sector thing - and very London dominant, but there are some others who use numbers.
From a quick glance, the following use numbers.
Lothian and Borders
Middlesex and North West London
City of London and North East
Greater London and South West
Greater London and South East
Buckinghamshire
Royal County of Berkshire
Sussex
HIOW
Some exceptions to the rule, as there are some in Wales, Midlands, Merseyside that also have numbers.
Any reason why their ACF branding board thing has the ATC crest on it?
Weaponised Incompetence?
Lack of involving the correct stakeholders?
I do find it rather funny, but it’s a shame as it’s wasted money.
Heraldic badge.
(Crests are the things on top of armourial achievements: usually helmets or similar.)
But well spotted! I completely missed that. Very odd.
I believe it’s the generic RFCA branding for ‘Joint’ cadet centres. It has each of the corporate logos for the cadet forces they support, CCF, ATC and ACF. SCC not welcome here.
I think it’s more a likely a mistake, as it shows the CCF, ATC, and generic Army Cadets branding: but not the ACF.
Yeah, I think our should be the ACF badge instead.
ATC not needed, as they have their own board on the other side!
They’ve gone for the ACF corporate brand not the cap badge,
It might be a cap badge thing, as IIRC only ACF dets/coys not sponsored by a regiment or corps use it. So the corporate branding is more neutral.
Within our local Coy they have multiple cap badges.
Cap badge rivalry with the Army gives inter service banter a run for its money.
I saw something about ACF losing their cap badge and beret differences, defaulting to the Standard Dark blue beret and bronze ACF badge
don’t know how true that is though
It comes up about as often on ARRSE as O18 cadets, CivCom and ACTO 35 do on here.
I can’t see it happening.
What would be the benefit?
The only reason I can think of why anyone would be pushing for this is the rounds of body shaming comments I’ve seen relating to ACF instructors. Some might feel they are not representing their affiliated regiments in a positive manner; however, I get the impression that those making these kinds of comments are not influential in current Army or ACF policy circles.
A standardised cadet force.
In times of cost savings, why have 14 different Berets, 6 different No1s (or whatever the ACF equivalent is), hackles, etc.
Yes, i get tradition…
None of which are custom made for the ACF and available from the Army or affiliated regiments.
Very few members of the ACF/CCF(A) are scaled for service dress.
It looks like the business card template that someone has edited…badly.