You know what really makes me laugh?

I was laughing at this notion that apparently people think the answer to the problem is some form of authoritative government which can override Parliament.

So, we went from disliking the fact that the “unelected” but actually elected MEPs can overrule our partially elected parliament. Triggering this process in order to ‘take back control’ only for us to now start not liking our own elected representatives, and wanting to take back control from them in favour of a completely unelected form of authoritative control.

Next stop, Feudal system.

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Never liked them. Never trusted them.
I see the benefit from having some entity - a Monarch for example - being able to ignore party politics and slap Parliament around their collective heads when they are vanishing up their own orifices!

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Oh for the day when Her Majesty is able to do just that. Imagine if a formal Royal telling off was issued to Parliment!

I can see the benefit in a system which tells them off, perhaps, but to be able to override them entirely? then we’re just living in a dictatorship.

You don’t have to like them to agree that the system needs to exist. It just needs reform. The voting system in particular needs to go. It’s ludicrous that considering that more individuals voted for either UKIP or the Greens in the last two elections than did the SNP, that the latter has around 50 MPs and the former both just one. The system disenfranchises the majority. But that’s not an argument to bin the whole thing and bring in a dictator.

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But a dictator, acting as a direct representative of the people within a limited scope, is what is required to force a change in many cases where the elected representatives cannot overcome their in-built divisions and actually work for the good of the nation.

I have the electoral system in mind too, and it does require a dictator (as Vox Populi) to impose a change to the system for it to ever happen. There will be other cases where the party bickering just gets in the way of the nation actually doing the Right Thing!

Alas, this does not make me laugh :frowning:, but…

I just received an email stating “Please see the below article detailing updates to the ‘look and feel’ of the Shooting Portal Application System which will be rolled out over the coming weeks”

Shooting Portal Application System?
Really?

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I’ve been saying that the solution to this entire thing is to bring back fuedalism. At least everybody knows where they stand.

We’re not far off are we? A “ruling elite”, rival factions, big business as the new landed gentry, (alleged) corruption within the systems, money gets you the best education and opportunities…

I’m not sure whether to pick up a hammer and sickle or a barrel of gunpowder!

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I wonder what they overlap is of people who have complained about the HoL and the Speaker flexing their powers over parliament, and those who “apparently think the answer to the problem is some form of authoritative government which can override Parliament.”

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Mate, the overlap is probably massive. Irony is dead.

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I completely agree with this. The political establishment have only ever been interested in promising everyone the moon and the stars to garner enough votes to get a seat on the gravy train that is Parliament. They don’t give a tuppenny toss what happens after that because they know they can’t deliver what they’ve promised. £77k a year (around £50k more if you’re in a ministerial role) plus expenses all paid for by us, the plebs, who they take for a ride on a regular basis.

IMHO, we need a military coup that doesn’t rely on people voting, to get this country back on it’s feet.

Career politicking should be banned and a time limit imposed upon those who stand for election as MP’s. A maximum of 10 years and then they’re back out looking for a real job in the real world.

I am assuming that you are meaning another nations army to do this? I am not particularly sure the Army would do much better than our current government and have shown to be just as inept.

Antigua and Barbuda i would argue would probably do the best job, they have 245 military personnel, that should be enough for a peaceful coup as long as its after 3pm on a Friday and our lot have gone home.

Judging by the groupings on the Corbyn poster, I’m not sure the coup would be successful enough to give them a chance to try.

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In the last 22 years especially and more specifically between 1997 and 2008, the mantra from government has been “not our fault, the eu made us do it” when there has been anything unpopular like taxes (eg fuel and insurance).
Well, in 2016 the democratic decision was get out of the eu and ever since I feel that MPs (especially the simpering remain lot) have realised when we leave they will be fully accountable, and, they don’t want that, so it’s time they got a spine. Our MPs like all national MPs should be the ones deciding trade, taxes etc, not other foreign nationals. We keep marking the anniversaries of stopping that sort of thing happening.

The federalists in the eu are like venus fly traps luring countries like insects into the open trap with a promise of something nice, but we know how that ends for the insect.

We all know this when we vote and we get it every time, so it’s never a surprise… However I think that the parties know that they can affect little when they issue manifestos, but if they said that, that’s not really going to cut the mustard. In our hearts of hearts we know that governments can do little except tinker, so hopefully outside the eu, they have more get up and go.

A lot has been said and all spot on; overall we now have a culture of blaming someone else, because to own up might require a resignation and the ,loss of various perks and a tax payer funded salary. The reason behind democracy is for the people to have their say and their elected representatives to do their bidding, NOT to have a free hand and look after their own interests.

The current PM was home secretary when stop and search was ended because of complaints that is was discriminatory. I recall comments m daughter because it impacted on the way they might control or deter criminal activity in an area of high ethnicity. Now said elected representative does not appear to agree with the enforcement agencies, although maybe she has been distracted by knife wielding EU people. What a lost opportunity for the RAFAC and other youth organisations to teach citizenship. But when one reads about the suggestion that the Civil Service does not want Brexit and have been working to derail the process it, one can easily relate the stance of Sir Humphrey Appleby as being quite prophetic when it was created. In short the system has been corrupted and that same situation is equally true of our beloved organisation where rules are simply there to hide behind, and statutory obligations are only maintained where the Civil Servants cannot claim that a lack of resources does not allow scope for enforcement.

No-one has been advised about how Brexit will impact in the individual, but has anyone considered the extent of EU grant funding we have had. Maybe we will save on our vast financial contribution to the EU but will that give us more Grobs etc? I think not.

Emma Thompson flying from Los Angeles to join the eco idiots in London. The irony is all they do is move the traffic from where they are wreaking havoc to somewhere else and sod people’s lives up. One of them suggested people tale a day off work to join them, which is all fine and dandy if like them you haven’t got a proper job if they work at all if not independently wealthy and you’re up from country for a few days. You can well imagine them making their way around the countryside in a large 4*4. Like Emma Thompson’s flight and no doubt flights … do as I say not as I do.

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Caster Semenya sticking 2 fingers up at the IAAF.

For a body that has gone through all manner of things over drug and other performance enhancing techniques I think the IAAFs decision over Caster Semenya will open a can of worms. Where does it stop? Male athletes with low testosterone allowed to take supplements to get them up to the same levels as other men, so they can compete equally?
In a day and age when people and authorities are tripping over themselves and tying themselves in knots to accommodate people who want to identify differently to their birth gender and in extremis change their gender, here is an individual who through no fault of their own or desire to be different, is being penalised, which in other circumstances would attract all manner of criticism and uproar. I would understand it if it was like some of the East German “ladies” from the old days.

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Reviewing a criminal case today involving a knife. As always, you want a good picture of the knife usually accompanied by a ruler so you can see how long it is, this helps juries or magistrates visualise the stabby potential.

The ruler in today’s case? An ‘Air Cadets The Next Generation’ one.

:thinking:

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This made me smile today, good on him for challenging it.

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