You know what really makes me laugh?

Where does it say it will cost 7x the amount?

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The project is estimated to cost circa £1Bn if done with pylons, and circa £6.5Bn to put them underground and £4.3Bn for an offshore subsea cable. But of course that isn’t mentioned here, just that pylons are somehow woke waste…

Cut and cover is quite easy, remember how much the government overpays for contracts. How do you get electricity into large conurbations, oh yes, underground, I don’t see pylons where I live. Again, where do the figures come from?

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From the national grid.

Christ, mate, I was having a crack. You don’t need to always jump to the defence every time someone on here makes any sort of joke about the right wing and start it into a proper debate. It’s like having that one mate at the pub who you have to walk on eggshells around in case you say one wrong thing and spend the rest of the night debating.

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Debate is good, we don’t do enough of it in life in general. I think pylons are hideous like onshore wind farms and detract from the beauty of the countryside.

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Have I got this right: you want to silence one side of the debate so you can have your cracks without being challenged? There’s a name for that.

Not even close :man_facepalming:

glad to see I’m not the only one who got propaganda today :rofl:

“Voting Tory only gets you labour” was what we got, I mean it’s not wrong

but a lot of tory voters aren’t willing to go populist, and a lot of reform voters are too brain dead to realise that as the splinter party they’re letting labour in

It’s beautiful watching both shades of blue scramble for votes

Nothing adds to the beauty of the country side like Mounds of coal, oil rigs, and a thick smog making it hard to breathe

ahhhh nature

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House of Lords report:

The government cited the figures produced in the report in November 2023, when it argued that while it was possible to bury power lines, “it is up to 10 times more expensive and that cost will fall on the bill payer”

Lord Callanan(Con):

“I have a certain amount of sympathy with what my noble friend says, but the reality is that we need this new infrastructure and, unfortunately, it is not possible to say that no community will be affected. It is possible to bury power lines, of course, but it is up to 10 times more expensive and that cost will fall on the bill payer. As in many things, it is about getting the balance right.”

It’s not as simple as just spooling some copper out and putting dirt on top, even a firm which has a vested interest in pushing for buried cables admitted it would be prohibitively expensive. with installation ranging from wide isolated tunnels to run cable through ( expensive to build, plus would need to pay landowners a hell of a lot), or Gas filled pipes ( Expensive to maintain, risk of leak and contamination)

I see the benefit of Underground, but while it is this prohibitively expensive…

hahahaha no

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Are they referring to the traditional L6 & L12 pylons or the more eco friendly type L9s?

What like the 350k a week. Oh wait

Million, No?

Doesn’t diversity include women’s rights? Or has that battle been won? The battle question was a rhetorical one. There are still many on the right who believe that a women’s place is in the house.

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And back to making you laugh please.

It’s not hard people. When I give a warning and say back on topic, if you then try and continue the conversation I’ll just delete it and start silencing people.

  • Liz Truss, any time anyone mentions a lettuce.
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MML - Seeing lots of ‘people looking sad staring at the sky’ photos on the news, as Gatwick get’s backing from the Gov for a second runway.

So many people complaining about the noise. People who purchased a house near Gatwick and/or on the flight path. Why would you buy a house at the end of the runway if you’re fragile when it comes to noise? :joy:

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Also infuriating that loads of effort is being put into noise considerations but not the extra carbon release…

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It’s one of those things, I live not a million miles from Stanstead, I wouldn’t buy much closer for just that reason. Gatwick and Heathrow were always going to get more capacity it was a when not an if.