You know what really grinds my gears? The Gears Strike Back

i understand that completely, and can see why that would be law.

yet the culprit says

I noticed three men, enforcement officers, chasing me, and they stopped me immediately.

being chased by three men in uniform would be intimidating

while i get the reason for the law, there is clearly a threshold of volume which is acceptable and indeed of the substance which applied.

500 ml of waste oil, or even cooking oil bought from a Tesco Metro opposite the bus stop is much more serious than a mouthful of coffee…but given the officers spotted the “crime” they will have seen
1 - the small amount
2 - it came out of a coffee cup

the wording in the article is

which makes it an offence to deposit or dispose of waste in a way likely to pollute land or water, including pouring liquids into street drains.

but people pour coffee granules onto their garden (myself included) as a fertiliser so what difference does it make if it is coffee itself?

coffee, and certainly a mouthful is not likely to pollute land or water, quite the opposite so it seems the threshold for the substance and volume was never met…

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Yeah, that’s certainly not the right attitude, I’d say!

It’s just an OTT thing that’s happened which has made headlines. Some badly training enforcement bods have taken a step too far.

The way you’ve quoted the law there would be clear that coffee won’t be likely to pollute land or water. Certainly no more than rain run-off from a road already does!

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I don’t know what the threshold is but you’re right that the volume is likely insignificant, although every contribution will increase concentrations in the environment.

It’s not just the coffee itself, milk is a marine pollutant (again not really a problem at those volumes). I’m not sure about caffeine, a quick google came up with a couple of research papers that suggest it could be a problem for some marine life, but there wasn’t a lot on it.

The cocaine in London Water is more of an issue than the caffeine.

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As are the turds

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Thanks both I was enjoying my mid morning coffee and biscuit until I saw your posts :laughing:

Or maybe the council suddenly faced with such bad publicity decided to back down.

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Just because that’s what she said doesn’t mean that’s what happened.

CEO’s tend to operate in 3’s due to the violence and aggression they face doing their jobs. Probably what the council made the point of supporting their actions in the statement.

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If they needed to “chase” then they might not have been close enough to see what was poured initially and were stuck in the mindset of “we’ve stopped you now so must continue” and “letter of the law” blah blah.

Chase being the word she’s used, I would sugges “walked upto” is probably more accurate

line-of-duty-ted-hastings

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Alone it’s slightly subjective. A brisk walk from behind to catch up would be a “chase”.

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It’s rather amusing seeing the law people of ACC debate one-another.

It’s like being at the Oxford Union, but even more trivial and nowhere near as eloquent.

Notice the actual lawyer just made a cocaine joke and didn’t engage?

My armchair is pretty comfy.

We actually have this cracking leather armchair in our room. Which I think everyone in my room has at one point slept in, (boozy lunches, BIG sandwiches and small children have all been to blame.)

Put it in the bin. If the coffee then spills out, not your problem :face_with_hand_over_mouth::rofl:

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Well, this seems all but confirmed now. Massive loss for the cadet forces in this area.

And other camps will be under more pressure now that Crowborough and Cameron Barracks won’t be available. This will effect cadets over a wide area, not just those who’ve used these sites in the past. It’s a challenge for the 2030 goal of increasing cadet numbers as camps are great for retention.

it is almost as if there is no perfect answer given the limited resources the Govt have and further evidence of “over promising”