You know what really grinds my gears? The Gears Strike Back

Just remembered there are cyclist which only di whats best fir them and dont carr about the 2 mile tailback because they cant cycle more than 2mph l, ride in middle the road (normally due to pot holes) and demand a 5 mile wide berth (doesnt apply to most cyclist just a few selfish ones). I have seen a few empty well designed cycl le paths empty whilst cyclist dawdling on a more dangerous main road.

Thats every road users excuse, other users pay a little more tax, so guess they feel they own a little more of the road than those who dont pay the discriminatory duty rate.

Everyone pays the same towards the roads; it comes from general taxation.

People who say ā€œroad taxā€ or similar are just demonstrating a complete lack of understanding on how roads are funded.

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The lack of understanding around basic taxation and who spends money on what is a proper GMG of mine. People on Facebook moaning about the Parish and District Councils wasting money that should be spent filling potholes, when it is neither of their responsibility, and all paid for by the County Council. It really annoys me.

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Who mentioned road tax? I think we all know It is Vehicle Excise Duty which goes into the central black hole as it certainly does go to road repairs which should benefit every user.

I think if VED was actually used on the roads there would be less people begrudging paying extra and less cyclist falling of because there is a hole in the road.

Simplest thing to do would be to make it illegal to sell fuel to an uninsured car - most petrol stations already have ANPR, so just link it to the database. Car pulls us, is scanned, no insurance, pump no worky. All the uninusred drivers vehicles off the road within a month. Simples

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Canā€™t you fill containers with fuel?

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Iā€™d love to see how many more duplicated number plates that leads to, and how many more innocent people end up receiving speeding fines for offences they didnā€™t commit.

We already have to take the plates off our SOV after use, as they have been stolen twice already.

RFCA then complained about an ā€œabandonedā€ minibus, and threatened to tow itā€¦

So youā€™ll get shed load of stolen/cloned number plates and people blowing themselves up storing petrol at home or syphoning it off cars.

Nah, scrap VED & increase the tax on fuel = you drive more on the roads, you use more fuel, you pay more into the coffers.

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You can also include third party only insurance with the cost of fuel, meaning anyone buying fuel is automatically making their vehicle legal (with the exception of MOT for older ones). I think they do that in Australia.

The whole ā€˜you must use a cycle lane if one is thereā€™ idea is laughable.

We have off road cycle lanes in Bristol that have trees planted in the middle of them. We have cycle lanes that start in the middle of a road, so to get on to it, you have to cross three lanes of traffic, we have a segregated cycle lane opposite the train station that is 10 metres long, then turns into a pavement, forcing you back onto the road.

Iā€™m sticking to the road in all of those places, itā€™s safer and quicker.

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Except with the increase in electric vehicles you have less income, hence why the tax free status is being scrapped

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IIRC VED is based on emissions, so how do they apply VED to EVs

It hasnā€™t been based on emissions since around 2017. Now banded by vehicle value with a Ā£10 surcharge for diesel / discount for hybrids.

Thatā€™s an oversimplification.

The first payment is based on emissions. For ICE vehicles, it ranges from Ā£10 to Ā£2,745.

The second payment is Ā£190 for petrol or diesel cars, Ā£180 for ā€œalternative fuelsā€ cars (which includes hybrids) and Ā£0 for fully electric cars.

The exception to the above is any car with a list price of over Ā£40,000 when new. The rates then go to Ā£600, Ā£590, Ā£0 respectively. However, this is only paid for 5 years before the rate drops back to the other banding.

Saw that coming ages ago - huge gap building up in fiscal revenue, fuel duty + VAT on top = big income. Less on the VED front, but it will all add up, especially if the EV target of 2035 remains.

A simplification, certainly, but I wouldnā€™t call it an oversimplification. The first payment is priced in with the purchase and the subsequent years based on value with the Ā£10 differences for fuel type.

Which is a stupid arbitrary cut off making my road tax Ā£155 more expensive than the same car which is a year or so older

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