World War Three?

I don’t think Iran has anything to lose. They either call americas / trumps bluff or they cease to exist.

What would be the likely implications if the US does deploy a nuclear war head at Iran.

Would the Russians retaliate? What would be the world reaction?

I think if the US did decide to fire a missle it would be a SLBM rather than an ICBM as that way they can avoid the trajectory alarming Russia or China.

Having said that allegedly russias launches have a deadman computer switch so god know what could happen.

I was thinking the same. Civilization ending talk makes me think nukes. I say ‘he’s not that mad’ or ‘not that dumb’ in my head, but I’m honestly not sure anymore. Especially with Hegseths Holy War going off in Trumps ear.

It would be the ultimate power move. But would potentially kill millions of people. People who he said he was defending by invading.

I’m just expecting some made up offer of talks and another ultimatum

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It is TACO Tuesday after all! He is likely to chicken out…

But, if he actually gives an order to go and bomb a load of civilian cities, power stations, dams, etc, I do wonder at what point the military says no? Or at what point is the 25th amendment used?

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Problem is, that requires sanity & backbone from the people around him… something sorely lacking.

I think at this point that the UK/Europe should start denying America access to bases for any operations. This is gong too far.

This isn’t a NATO mission. No one is being defended.

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He sacked everyone with backbone. Backbones are woke.

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My understanding of the US nuclear launch protocol is that if the nation is attacked one of the joint chiefs can act as a second person to authenticate.

However if it is not in a state of conflict then the second person can be a cleared cabinet member.

The point that the 25th amendment would be used is if Trump orders a nuclear attack & it’s either carried out or the second person refuses.

So in the scenario Trump orders strike with nuclear weapons, Vance refuses as second person but the Secretary of State for war concurs.

Attack is launched then Vance moves to remove from office.

Then civil war probably

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Wasn’t there a suggestion that Randy George said “No” to a few things? And Pete got angry.

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What Americans are throwing at each other would be the least of our issues once that genie is back out of the bottle.

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Hopefully, the order would be refused if seen as illegal, such as ordering an indiscriminate nuclear attack when conventional options exist.

Not a wpns / tactics expert (although I did have involvement with buckets of :sun: on Vulcans :wink: ), but the USA has so many conventional options available - I fail to see what strategic military tgts have yet to be taken out that would need nuclear options.

Nah, I think you are looking at “shock and awe” with Trumpist hyperbole thrown in.

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Well, as far as conventional aircraft are showing on FlightRadar24, there’s comparatively little activity near TLV (one RAF Shadow is playing in the area), with only 3 x KC135 aircraft around, no combat aircraft as yet. Nothing displayed that I can see near UAE / Iran.

Well if we’re all dead tomorrow, I’ll meet you heaven at the milkshake pool on the lesbian cloud.

But seriously, Trump won’t press the big red button. If he does, there’s no avoiding a US Civil War Mk 2.

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Already confirmed with line manager at work - if WW3 means we can’t come into work tomorrow we have to take it as toil :laughing:

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There certainly seems to be rising tensions, not escalation. Gulf states giving out lots of shelter in place warnings expecting retaliation.

Maybe no TACO. Maybe he really will go full insane. :melting_face:

One way or another, it’s either TACO or FAFO time.

If tobacco advertising was still permitted the Hamlet cigar adverts right now would be awesome.

Edit to add - if anyone can create one using AI that would be good to see :slight_smile:

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Eh? Is Trump having peace talks with him self? Iran has made it pretty clear they ain’t opening…

Looking like just another deadline that’ll pass. Honestly I hope that to be the case. Not keen on millions getting killed.

Seems to be legitimate, and could be a good off-ramp as it gives both sides the opportunity to claim victory.