What's going on with JL & QAIC

I haven’t heard anything about either of them and it’s rather depressing… The two most prestigious courses and there both gone!

QAIC qualified cadets to do pretty much nothing expect teach bronze cyber

JL started a leadership course but is now shifted more towards fieldcraft which makes people thrown upon it as there is multiple ways the get the same gold badge

When can we expect an update!

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JL’s basically being made into a rebranded ACLC.

So it’s essentially dead, because ACLC was always impossible to staff.

Any ideas when JL will be back? I was looking to do that as I got older in cadets and im using it as my “end goal” for my cadet career

Not a clue sadly, I’m really sorry buddy.

If not when…

No worries, just back to the waiting game then

Both courses were paused for the 24/25 training year.

On the assumption they resume for 25/26 I’d expect to hear about this around June based on previous years.

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Has anyone heard amy rumours of these two starting up again? Got my eye on QAIC but afaik they’re not running 25/26, so is there much chance of them coming back for 26/27 or will this ‘temporary’ pause become a permanent cut.

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Heard nothing & not even rumours or speculation.

the ACTO 88 was updated in March 2025 so might be something & the nominal OC JL is still active within RAFAC but not sure if they are still doing that role or are doing something else.

A lot of JLs staff were service instructors so imagine RTU if they haven’t found a local unit & a lot of EDBS checks will be expiring so they may not have any staff bout to restart.

Their Facebook social media is pretty much dead too.

QAIC I have heard unsubstantiated rumour/gossip that they are gearing up for relaunch but it’s tied into the drone project so delays are compounding that.

Their Facebook page is active too so they seem to be keeping some sort of mothballed activity ticking over but nothing official.

I don’t know if their respective lanyards & flashes still appear in ACP1358 which may give an indication of business intent.

If I was to speculate I would say QAIC likely to be back in some shape but probably not JL but that is reliable as asking some random down the pub or twitter.

Update re QAIC - returning in 2026

Nice little Christmas present :slight_smile:

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Does this include the aero elements of classification? :folded_hands:

No idea it’s just from their Facebook post :slight_smile:

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With any luck, the Air-PTS will replace classifications.

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Nice of them to put it through an official channel :unamused_face:

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It’s not a formal announcement with any useful detail. No need and probably would be complained about with a “what’s the point?”

The most interested get a minor update that maintains engagement and interest, while the inboxes and time of those that care less and would be bothered by “empty” comms isn’t taken up.

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I disagree, it may be lacking detail but it is still an update, and we have official channels for that. It wouldn’t be an extra email, just an entry in the weekly briefs we already receive. Putting it on Facebook means not everyone will see it.

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Well, we’ve all seen it this way and are discussing it. Pretty sure I wouldn’t be as aware if it was contained to a RAFAC email (unless, of course, it was being discussed on here).

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I’ve stopped reading the weekly briefs they rarely contain pertinent information - if it’s important I expect an email, if it’s not then it can get included in the routine guff which I catch up with over the following couple of months.

Personally, this is completely the right form of info & OC QAIC should be commended for the way they’re media team have dealt with the pause - despite being little news or any noticeable formal policy announcement they have kept QAIC ticking over in their minor releases.

I look fwd to seeing the formal comms but the informal at this stage (which is still suitably vague of hoping for sept 26) is appropriate.

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QAIC was / is a major activty - I would not expect an informal social media release before an “informal” update on normal comms.

If you don’ t follow QAIC on social media, then you would be in the dark - especially if cadets ask for any updates (as they have been doing on & off on our sqn).

More importantly, the Air-PTS is a brand new topic, worthy of a more formal update.

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