The current bag de jour appears to be the Berghaus Munro (again).
I have the smaller karrimor SF predator, a very nice daysack, with a few molle loops to add some extra pooches if I am so minded.
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Both ally as it gets. Allyness saves lives.
The most important question to answer is can you use a Daysack at night?
but as others have said, Daysack first as is suitable for general use not just one or two activities.
Daysack … you can just get a cheap rucksack to carry your stuff in.
If you want to shoot the L98, you will need webbing or a cadet training vest, and there is no substitute for that. If your Sqn or Wg can provide webbing then just go with that.
We shouldn’t be loading cadets up like mules; if it can’t be carried in the webbing then it’s probably staying at the patrol harbour / admin area, in which case it can be pink for all I care.
Decent webbing is, in my experience, expensive, and I’ve never seen an L98 shoot not take place because webbing isn’t available.
So in webbing which cadets are allowed u der the current ACFTIs…
Your saying you can fit. (Bearing in mind magazine pouches stay empty).
Waterproofs top and bottom.
Warm layer.
2 litres of water.
Lunch
Snacks
Personal first aid kit
Prob other stuff.
Whilst I admire your commitment to pushing shooting at all opportunities.
As general advice to a cadet, if they dont currently have a suitable day sack. That clearly HAS to be the priority.
Considering how much use they will get that from that vs webbing for L98 shooting.
Don’t forget sleeping bag in the NI pack…
It all depends on what your wing supplies. You may find that webbing and daysacks/bergens are loaned to you for the duration. Be careful if you’re buying webbing though. I might be wrong, but aren’t cadets compelled to wear those cadet direct assault vests now? If you do buy webbing, buy grade 1 or grade 2 DPM. Don’t overspend. Personally, I’d be inclined to invest in a decent G1 or new issue MTP daysack/bergen that you can use across activities.
No, belt kit is allowed and no specific type is specified. There are limits on pouch numbers, it’s in another thread somewhere.
Personal view: cadet vests don’t work that well except perhaps for smaller cadets. I have a couple of them for that reason but most of my year 11 and ups would struggle to get them comfortably on over a smock.
Exception is if you have the ex regular army load carrying vest, rather than the cadet type.
I have the Sabre 30 rather than the Predator 30 (basically the same but without molle loops) and it is a solid bit of kit. Have had it for years. I also have the Predator 45 issue daysack though it is rather large, and probably not needed for most adventures.
You can synch the Predator 45/ PRI daysack down quite small though, if someone say one at a decent price (£50 or under without the ticket pouches) it’s a solid bit of kit. Just no waist belt on the issue version.
in @dazizian defence he did say if it can’t be carried in webbing it will be in the Harbour area and could be pink…
of those items only the two two are most likely to be pink*.
i’m pretty sure in my “webbing” i could get sufficient food and water the last the “day” and a first aid kit. if it is cold…well I’ll be wearing my layers anyway 'cos its green exercise which only leaves waterproofs which i could probably fold into a smock pocket if needed.
that said the above example is only valid on fieldcraft and not a general AT walk…but who is wearing webbing outside of fieldcraft or shooting environments?
*by pink i mean “not military pattern”
Road marchers often wear webbing
It is currently mandated for L98 IWT. If you see that happening without webbing, speak up.
It will soon be mandated for LFMT, too.
This shouldn’t be a blocker. Rgns (and many Wgs) have stocks. I’ll wager money on many committees / councils approving purchases of more.
Training without webbing fundamentally sets cadets and CFAVs up for failure when they do need it. Teach with webbing / CTV.
You may have seen, but I haven’t shot for over 5 years.
Frankly, considering how hard it is to do in SW Region, I’ll be surprised if I ever do it again.
Shame really, I loved shooting as a cadet, was pretty good at it too.
Fixed that for you
Regional differences is a pet project of mine; the RCs will rightly do what’s right in their Rgn but I’ll do my best to ensure there are still ways and means to provide opportunities.
Get in touch if you have anything specific you want help making work.
I’m too far removed from the shooting lark to have any input on running it. Most I ever managed was WI, and i let that lapse years ago as I found the teaching method really hard work, and often not productive.
I just miss having access to regular, local wing shoots I could go on and help out a bit, and maybe chuck some rounds down the range.
webbing is also super sexy… so go with webbing