AIUI, nobody technically retired from it anyway; they relinquished.
I thought AP1358C’s illustrations on page 129 (para 0432) were pretty good as a guide, even though they show VRT and ATC pins.
Do you mean Yr1 at Primary?
Someone could have done a better job blindfolded and hands tied behind their back.
When you look at them next to VRTs all you want to do is weep. The VRTs look like at some point a proper tradesman with tool making skills was involved in the process. But given they probably came about just after WW2, the originals would have been made when we had proper skilled artisans who took pride in what they produced and produced things to last. Not cobbled together after a heavy Friday lunch using ‘scribble’ mode on drawing software when you’ve got beer goggles.
When I did metal casting at school, the teacher would have given you a look and told to do it again, that’s you didn’t look at it, think that’s crap and start again.
Relinquished “1. To give up or abandon 2. To put aside or desist from 3. To let go or surrender” doesn’t sound like the experience that I had.
sounds exactly like your experience!
You’ve misunderstood that slightly.
That is absolutely correct. We wear the pins on the jacket collar.
(apologies for the poor diagram)
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Still nothing in the Gazette about the mass-relinquishment’s of RAFVR commissions and the re-appointments under the CFC…
i think i saw something on the Ask the Team on this…?
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Which 1976 Wimbledon runner is tenuously linked to Micheal Jackson?
BILLIE JEAN King
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More like can’t be bothered as I’m …
mowing the lawn
getting my handicap down
playing a game on my phone
doing my Tesco/ASDA/Morrisons/Waitrose/Sainsbury’s/Aldi/Lidl weekly shop
on the toilet checking social media and saying how good I am
having a nap
FUBAR and some more stuff so I can post FUBAR
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The MOD. They’ve thought this whole project through really well, haven’t they?
THEY wanted it and forced it through. Then they continue getting officers appointed to a commission in the VR (that’s a lot of AEF pilots…) and the ACF are still getting their bods on List B.
No CFC scrolls, no mass relinquishment notifications in the Gazette, no mass commissioning into the CFC but one hell of a lot of upset staff in the ACO.
How the MOD must be patting themselves on the back.
To me, it wasn’t broke and it didn’t require fixing. A little ‘adjustment’ perhaps but not fixing. iMO, the CFC was not required.
But the MOD forced it through anyway without having the wherewithal to back up it’s actions. That says a lot about the quality of people who staff that - clearly - highly-intellectual establishment.
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Yes I sometimes wonder myself of the calbre of these people who wouldnt last a second in the real world outside their gilded existence.Personally ive had enough of the way things are going.I was at the docs the other day as been suffering some serious headaches.His advice was to slow down and cut down on stress.Well if he had of said that when I first came into the corps id of been surprised.It was genuinely good fun then.It isnt anymore ive just received yet more paperwork to fill in and more stuff that the RAF will send people round to inspect.Well enough is enough .Im not an office manager or a full time administrator.I joined the corps to provide fun activities for kids and to do something worthwhile in my spare time.The organisation is the main source of my stress and im not here to provide employment for people who ve nowt better to do.So when the day arrives I have to sign that volunteers agreement i ll be putting my papers in.The fun has been wrung out of this “hobby” its time to find another and hang up the blue suit for good.
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In my view Gunner is quite right. The key driver for the change to the cadet force commission appears to have been the large number of service complaints being made by cadet force officers. If that is the case, it was probably due to poor drafting of the Armed Forces Act of 2006 which made all regular and reserve forces subject to its jurisdiction and therefore eligible to use the complaints procedure. Schedule 14 of that Act covers Amendments Relating To Reserve Forces. A carefully constructed amendment to the effect that the non-deployable officers of the Army Cadets, Air Training Corps and appropriate sections of the CCF would be subject to the internal complaints procedures of their own organisations should have solved the problem and saved a lot of staffing effort and angst !!
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If you believe that the ACO is a part, no matter how small of your medical problem, take time out, your health and an ability to work for your living to provide for your loved ones is far far more important. The Corps does not support your family, you do.
The Corps will take take take, and when you crack up, will do nothing to help you.
i don’t disagree at all…
but i will add - try solve the problem at the source as prevention is better than cure.
in addition to the above, why not tackle why these complaints are being put forward? what is so wrong with the world that complaints are being made? and then need to be escalated so high??
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The problem is complaints in the Corps are not regarded as they should be. A complaint should be regarded as a chance to learn not throw out teddies.
At squadron level many Sqn Cdrs are not ‘equipped’ or have the time to deal with problems. But 10 minutes sitting down with someone can resolve or stop things escalating.
Wing Staff look upon and treat people who complain with the same disdain they would finding something Fido left in the park, when attached to the bottom of their shoe. Feeling more than slightly aggrieved this then starts to move up the organisation. HQAC fail to deal with it or the person feels that it won’t be recognised and it went to the top. Now we will have HQAC as the top failing to deal with them and treating people as described.
Ignoring or poorly handling a complaint is a sure fire path to disaster. The problem with badly dealt with complaints is they are pebble of ill-will dropped in the pond, the ripples can be felt long after the pebble was dropped. I’ve complained about poor products / service and been sent vouchers and had replacement product and had money returned. Why? So that I have a good impression of the company/product, so a few quid and or getting things replaced which is nice and useful for us, is a small fry, goodwill gesture to that company. And hopefully stops people bad mouthing them.
It is ironic that the MOD (inc HQAC) is full of administrators, and complaints being a largely administrative process, it is a mystery they cause such problems that changing the commission held by people complaining was the only thing they could possibly do. I must buy a 300 ton steam hammer to shell my peanuts, as this is what they have done.
So May this year then, another volunteer will sadly go. I wonder if HQAC are noticing an upwards trend…
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