Volunteer Software Development Team - New Cadet Portal

Sports strategy survey? Say what?

oh dear

Its a survey…about sport :+1:

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As long as the Survey isn’t testing it should be fine.

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Should the first set of comms in relation to this really come via the release notes for Cadet Portal…

This is 100% not your fault as the sponsor has communicated with you and your team so that you can deliver this but not with the majority of the corps.

I have to ask why, not are we hiding state secrets within the survey?

Ah surveys for everything now.
That will fix all our woes! :man_facepalming:

@james_elliot - I know we now have the CP red/green on the label (thanks) but……

If an event has numerous sub-apps we may only publish the relevant sub apps to CP
However, only the main event displays in SMS Events and My Attendees only shows those bidding for the main event

Can we have a Displayed in CP filter for events that goes to sub app levels - ie what the cadets see in CP - although now easier to see attendees in single events managing these types of events is still time intensive
I understand if the answer is still that multi activity events are not the priority but Wings etc are going this way at speed

The problem (which is known) about multi-activity events is that it doesn’t really work. It is nothing more than a series of separate events, which require separate authorisation, grouped together in way which makes administration and display awkward and inefficient.

I suspect that until the approach to multi-events is redesigned from the ground up we probably can’t expect too much.

SJust wondering - should this thread become its own forum category? Split some of the conversations and allow them to be closed once that topic has reach its conclusion?

Could have some pinned topics of ā€˜feedback’ etc if @james_elliott is happy to allow this as a semi-official route.

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@james_elliott - whilst i am on a wish list…
Can CP warn/highlight to cadets when they are bidding/attending more than 1 event at the same time
Unless you are proactively managing the Sqn bids 24/7, individual Event organisers will not be aware that potential no shows exist because of double booking

Later on i would suggest that the cadet receives a warning that they are bidding for multiple events. Once selected/attending 1 if they are selected for 2nd event they receive a notification to choose by a certain deadline or else they are deselected from 2nd option maybe - or else event organiser gets a notification that cadet is double booked - whiteboarding here now :grin:

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Good idea.
Got caught by this last weekend.

I wouldn’t mind a warning to both the Cadet and the Staff but I wouldn’t want to see it refuse to allow you to do it. There are genuine reasons why you might put Cadets on overlapping events.

Auto warning to cadet. It’s their responsibility.
But maybe flagged on the attendee list somehow.
I certainly dont want emails. Omg. Get enough already.

For another reason i worked it out the other day.
Getting average 44 emails a day into my inbox.
Fffffffffffffffffffffffff.

Mostly rubbish.

The staff being informed of anything would be an improvement… We have to put in a huge amount of work now to know who’s doing what across the board, going into each event one by one.

Being able to print off a single report telling us which cadets have signed up to things would be great.

However, we have noticed a massive drop off in cadets signing up to things, especially the younger ones. There’s no watercooler moment of them gathering around the noticeboard asking their friends who’s going to what and then joining in because their friend is going. We’re making them live in an online world, isolated and remote.

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We are seeing the total opposite, we have Cadets signing up for things they never would’ve done in the past.

Although if we could just get people to put activities on in plain English it would be amazing as half of our Wing Courses aren’t immediacy obvious to the Cadets. If it’s a Bronze Badge Leadership Course call it that!

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Yes. A thousand yes

Out of interest, is that across your entire squadron? We’ve noticed the older ones signing up to the same amount, if not more, but we’ve got a huge proportion of cadets under 18 months service -most around 13/14 years old- who haven’t done activities before, who aren’t signing up.

Yeah it seems to be across the board, if anyone is signing up for less I’d say it’s the Corporals.

It did take a bit of spelling out to some of our more Juniors that they were allowed to sign up for stuff.

It would also be helpful if Wing would put any pre-requisites for their courses on bader rather than us having to guess!

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I’m conflicted here, but hence the suggestion that it might be a useful facility to have for a Sqn to use or not as they see fit.

I appreciate the sentiment and agree the cadet should be doing this but we all know a cadet’s ability to do so varies and as such our Sqn still keeps parents informed of the basics (who, what, where, when, how etc) via email.

I find it slightly strange to not to engage the parents and rely on the cadets entirely, there is useful dialogue that can be established through parental engagement . My take on CP was to facilitate more ownership of the experience for the cadet and raise awareness of events that a cadet might not have already seen.

A danger in referring parents to the CP alone is then that the parent has to go through their child to access the info which might taint the cadet’s engagement if parents adopt this approach. Not something we need to worry about though I suppose.

I suppose this was just my thoughts on what might ease our own Sqn ops :slight_smile:

Agreed - I should have said that it was briefed at outset that the organiser would adjust it, but the Sqn decided to confirm their cadets anyway.

This is where I was coming from in my previous post about keeping the parents informed, I know we aren’t a school but I believe the parents should be informed of the relevant activity - noted the proposal you mentioned covers that off nicely if it is implemented.