Not in my experience
You would, yeah (and probably most). But I think itās more about recording the specific events on that activity for further audit and giving a reference for next time as to why itās in your new one/why you need to add it in there.
If someone gets caught out 3 years in a row by the tide and has never recorded what happened or what actions they took, thereās a serious problem that needs to be addressed but thereās no mechanism in our remote working structure to flag these things if itās not recorded on the ground. If it all goes horribly wrong in that third year and the question ādid this happen beforeā comes up, followed by āwhy wasnāt it recordedā, followed by āwhy didnāt you change your RA and other planning to prevent itā and the answers are āyesā, āI forgot/didnāt botherā, āIt was a year later and I forgot to include itāā¦
Someone is in a lot of trouble.
Weāre working to the lowest denominator here and we all know that one corner-cutting chump we donāt trust. We live in a bureaucracy that will shift the blame as low as possible. If RAFAC can turn around and say āwe told them to do it, we trained them to do it, and we even gave them a specific box to remind them and give them somewhere convenient to do itā, well thereās your downhill slope to aim your blame.
Would it be less controversial if the dynamic section was a separate document to be uploaded to SMS before completing the event as part of the post activity report?
Obviously something cropping up which prompts a dynamic change would probably give rise to a proper reassessment. You would likely think āActually, yeah⦠Thatās something I hadnāt considered and it could be an issue next time too.ā
But really, I would think that the requirement to document a dynamic RA update would be mainly evidentiary.
i.e. Circumstances change⦠Despite your best efforts something happens⦠You would need to be able to demonstrate that you recognised the departure from the RA and dynamically reassessed the situation.
Iām not convinced that writing it down there and then (especially in the examples given by others) would legally be necessary to demonstrate that you had in fact tried to mitigate the increased risk.
(And when I say āIām not convincedā I am being polite )
Isnāt that the whole point of the end of activity report on Bader?
Thing is, thereās no mechanism regardless of that box being there. Itās not mandatory to upload anything to complete an SMS event, nor is there a mechanism for the governance chain to review PXRs or any post-event changes to uploaded documents. So until that is in place, it still seems worthless - but I do appreciate your point about the blame aspect.
Not minimal effortā¦
Over 40 RAs to āamendā on my Sqn.
This is 2 days work.
Can we claim VA for adminā¦
For the sake of your own memory more than anything, Iād say. But also as back up should you get questioned on it - more credible if youād already recorded it.
Which is pretty vague in its current format. I wonder how many are essentially āactivity went ahead, sun was shining, no one diedā or whatever more creative solution @Baldrick has imagined on a particular day.
Yeah, I never said it was a perfect solution.
On the blame thing, to flip it slightly, Iām all for CFAV taking any step to cover their own backsides and HQAC providing a way to enable this is also kind of positive. The competent among us will already do something that serves the purpose, but this is just another available tool/prompt.
On the back of all of that, Iām wondering if the Post Activity Report should be in Wizard format with a series of questions prompting the relevant informationā¦
The concept of an āactivity commanderā still confuses me. Who is that on Sqn? It canāt just be one person as they might not be running an activity on the night and therefore canāt supervise & stop the activity. Do all the staff & staff cadets need to review the RA and sign it?
Iāve done this before, yes. Not sure RE the new format though.
I wouldnāt say they need to sign it, but certainly everyone actually taking part in the activity needs to be able to see it and have it briefed to them if required. A pre activity briefing based on your risk assessment is a pretty good idea, as long as you donāt just read it out word for word.
Most of mine for a startā¦
True, though one would of course have to balance that with the requirement to maintain control in the moment; and with the practicalities of current conditions.
Iād far rather make the call mentally, and then make some contemporaneous notes in a pocket notebook a little bit later on, when the situation allows, than to faff about with a collection of A4 pages of RAFAC RA form on the top of a mountain, or in a following sea.
I think probably that verbally briefing oneās new plan to another CFAV - as one would likely need to do anyway - would also assist as evidence that one had reacted to the changing situation.
Whoever is completing the RA needs to be ācompetentā to do so - i.e. have the knowledge, skills and experience to appropriately identify the hazards and put in place sensible controls.
Certainly in the AT / shooting world (or indeed any other qualification driven activity) then the activity commander would be the person with the ticket.
Just read through the comments and expected a total shambles of a form⦠But it looks ok to me.
I agree moving all current RAās over to the new form will be a massive pain⦠but I thought visually it was ok, the guidance notes arenāt terrible. It will be annoying moving current forms to this new one but at least we can do this as we go rather than having to do it all in one hit.
except having just re done all mine for re opening as they were out of date I will have to do them all at once for next year on the new form
Gives me 12 months to get to grips with itā¦
The obvious thing for everyone to do is quickly redo all their old RAs with new dates, buy a full 12 monthsā¦
Then worry about the new form.
Some of these GRAs are truly terrible.
Activity: āOpening Up/Locking Up Squadronā
Hazard Identified: āSome Staff may not feel comfortable or safe carrying out this task aloneā
Itās almost as though it were written by someone who doesnāt understand what a āhazardā isā¦
Perhaps if they included some Guidance on the form itself which explained what the word means⦠Ohā¦
A control measure for Fire:
Never waste the opportunity of a free light of your cigarette. In the event of a real fire, light up before evacuating!
That risk assessment has been written by someone who hasnāt been trained to write risk assessments.
Ironic isnāt it?..
Seriously, these are a joke with some of the contents. What they tell me is that HQAC donāt take risk assessment seriously. This will lead to those at the coalface deciding not to take it seriously either and then itās only a matter of time until a serious accident occurs.
Iām hoping they accidently uploaded the jokey drafts to SharePoint and that no-one in a professional H&S role would actually think this was appropriate