Uniform standards... discuss


#81

Is the uniform thing indicative of the way people feel about the organisation?

I know people who have lost jobs and let themselves go, as they don’t feel there is a reason to bother. Get a job and pick up.

People sometimes need to feel good about something, in order to feel good about themselves.


#82

still parading in VRT here as no CFC slides forwarded yet!


#83

Have you asked wing for some, or asked wing to ask region (who have spare) for some?


#84

The question is, why should he have to ask?


#85

I agree that everyone should be smart when representing the ATC.
How about a commitment to a reasonable upkeep of a specific uniform from HQ in the Volunteer (Dis)Agreement?


#86

You know that sometimes things fall through the cracks. Badges put in the wrong pigeon-holes, wrong quantities delivered, mail going missing etc. It can’t be fixed if there is no feedback.

Of course there will be some people who just sit back with their fingers in their ears, going “la la la, nothing received here” and doing nothing to remedy the situation because it suits them to do so.

Because that would depend on getting the MOD/RAF (or RFCA in places) being effective and you will be better off trying to nail jelly to the wall.


#87

It has been raised, I am now just doing exactly what i have been told to, as in parade with what I have got till get something different.

As for the general topic, my view is, be smart in uniform or be in civvies.


#88

I was recently at an Annual dinner with several WHQ senior officers in attendance. None of them had RAFAC pins on their No5s


#89

How recently?


#90

Our pins were distributed by WHQ two weeks ago.


#91

We got ours mid-December.


#92

Maybe they were present as RAFVR(T) Retired Officers? In the same way that Ex-Regular personnel tend not to wear pins on No5’s as they are being RAF Retired on these occasions.


#93

I will get some eggs to it will give me something to suck.
There is nobody in my wing has the new pins.


#94

Sounds like a WHQ problem.


#95

Lucky you they re the most horrible cheap and nasty pieces of tat ive seen since I was first issued a 1972 pattern “Thunderbird Jacket” when i joined up.


#96

[quote=“incubus, post:86, topic:3828, full:true”]You know that sometimes things fall through the cracks. Badges put in the wrong pigeon-holes, wrong quantities delivered, mail going missing etc. It can’t be fixed if there is no feedback.
Of course there will be some people who just sit back with their fingers in their ears, going “la la la, nothing received here” and doing nothing to remedy the situation because it suits them to do so.[/quote]
Why should we volunteers be forever in effect covering for the failings of our assumed professional paid staff at Wing and higher. It’s enough sorting squadron things out in part of our spare time, without having to cover the backsides of people in the organisation getting paid, who are home doing what they do, while we are doing our bits at the squadron.


#97

Stuff getting lost in the post is hardly a failing on the part of our paid staff.


#98

Fair enough, but they can’t sit there thinking they are perfect and when we send things that get lost in the post, it’s our fault or more correctly the accusation is we haven’t sent it.
What is baffling is in the second half of the second decade of the 21st Century we have to send things in the post. The organisation is really keen to embrace e-documents as a cost cutting process, but outside that reason, I’m not convinced. We do 99% of external things by email at work, either scanned, digitally signed or via specific email addresses. There are a few people we deal with who prefer post, but in the main, “No stamps or envelopes are harmed in any way.”


#99

Can’t scan and print embroidered badges… yet!


#100

OK but why do we need to send forms etc etc as these are the things that get lost.
I’m waiting for the link for me to do an online DBS, that once done will be with me, before Wing would have got it in the post to me.