Hi, i have question WHY RAF finds difficult to supply girls skirt and shirts. I am getting fed up as i been in air cadet for 4 months and i still havent got my uniform because they cant supply skirt that is small enough for me. I want to know why. Thanks :mad:
Probably because
- They don’t have time to be dealing with stroppy teanagers such as yourself
- There have been recent holds on the supply of uniforms to prioritise the high demand (the RAF)
- They are primarily concerned in the supply of normal size skirts for RAF females (which are the size of Norfolk in 95% of the cases)
Small uniform has been a problem for many, many years; shirts, jumpers, trousers and berets. The recent mess wrt uniform created due to contracts not being put in place laughable in the modern business enirvironment, has exacerbated the situation.
We are entering an interesting phase as the number of cadets exceeds the number of RAF personnel the need for smaller sizes will increase proportionately, and it will largely depend on how the RAF at large (or whoever is supposed to sort out the contracts) regards us … customer (all be it hog tied) or parasite. The former and there should be adequate provision within the clothing contract, the latter and it’s make do with what you get.
I have in the past paid, via the CWC, for uniform to be tailored, as the RAF is unable to fufil our requiremennts.
certainly within the sector i was in, supply of small sizes became such an issue that a number of cadets would parade in CS95 because it became impossible to find blue uniform items to fit them. some private purchace from silverthiefs and rip-off dircet etc… was done, and some tailoring, but even that didn’t fill all the gaps.
During my time, and on numerous occasions I have remade the smallest available skirt to fit a small cadet. I agree not ideal but as soon as the cadet grew we were able to supply from regular stock. I was lucky, I had possibly the best SSO around and never had a problem supplying uniform. If we were presented with odd sized cadets, we adapted and worked at it to resolve the problem. I think this young ladies expectations are a little high, only 4 months in, most would only just have finished Junior Cadet Training 
no, i don’t think so - the RAF can move half a dozen Typhoons and all their ground crews, spares and duvets half way across Europe in a day, it can send a Sentinal R1 to [strike]Nigeria[/strike]Senegal :evil: at the click of the PM’s fingers: she’s only asking for a skirt to be put in a Jiffy bag and posted to her unit in the space of 16 weeks - its not exactly putting a man on the moon level effort required…
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That is all!
Because the RAF has nothing better to do than meet the demands of a child.
Its not as if they still have an operational tempo in Afghanistan.
RnR flights for lads in Afghanistan.
Maintaining a constant alert and detterrant against airborne threats.
Countless other areas of operations that I wont get into here.
The supplying of uniform to its own men and women that actually work for a living.
Training its own men and women.
Maintaining its aircraft.
The list goes on and on… but no, your right they should drop everything to supply a child in a uniformed youth club first. Priorities and all that.
Wind your neck in.
Although people seem happy to buy MTP. Go buy a skirt then.
I’d tend to agree with P/O Prune, that the smallest sizes of skirts in the supply system are sometimes still too large for the smallest female cadets. Sometimes it is a case of get the smallest available and then find someone with a sewing machine and the capability to make the garment smaller.
Or wear trousers.
[quote=“RearAdmiralScrinson” post=18398]Because the RAF has nothing better to do than meet the demands of a child.
…blah
The list goes on and on… but no, your right they should drop everything to supply a child in a uniformed youth club first. Priorities and all that.
Wind your neck in.
Although people seem happy to buy MTP. Go buy a skirt then.[/quote]
She’s a youngster. Stop being such a ■■■■.
Because the RAF has nothing better to do than meet the demands of a child.
Its not as if they still have an operational tempo in Afghanistan.
RnR flights for lads in Afghanistan.
Maintaining a constant alert and detterrant against airborne threats.
Countless other areas of operations that I wont get into here.
The supplying of uniform to its own men and women that actually work for a living.
Training its own men and women.
Maintaining its aircraft.
The list goes on and on… but no, your right they should drop everything to supply a child in a uniformed youth club first. Priorities and all that.
Wind your neck in.
Although people seem happy to buy MTP. Go buy a skirt then.[/quote]
Are you due for decompression anytime soon? Sounds like you need it.
given the apparent inability of the RAF to take part in any deployment to Africa without first breaking down, perhaps the RAF has been using its blanket stackers to ‘fix’ its aircraft…
more to the point, admirable though your list of ‘better things to do’ is, not only to C-17/Typhoon/GR4/Sentinal/Sentry/Reaper/C-130/Voyager crews not actually get involved in blanket stacking, but astonishingly the RAF enploys people who’se job is, day in and day out, to order clothing and put it in jiffy backs to be sent to people who require it.
for someone who goes on about hard and important life is in the military, you don’t seem to know much about it…
Jealousy gets u nowhere so stop being like a ■■■■ and get on with your stupid business if u don’t have anything nice to say or don’t know what to say yet u annoy people. P.s. I pay subs every month and it’s my duty to gain qualifications through RAF and work in future with RAF, and it’s not my responsibly to buy skirt whatsoever as “lads in Afghanistan” gets paid a lot as uk gov don’t have enough money to spend on free uni etc… Because of they pay too much stupid money on troops to fight. So it’s different for cadets as we pay to RAF to get good organised stuff but instead all we get is nothing but garbage and waste of time waiting for uniform as time passes, and they take cadets money spending onto troops and not cadets uniform and other facilities. So wind your neck in.
Wow.
LoveChristian, before the mods jump on you, you would do well not ‘go off the deep end’. Cadets subs don’t get passed to the MOD to spend on troops - they are used by the Sqn to build-up their funds with only a percentage going to Wg\Rgn\Corps.
Also, it’s advisable not to use text-talk.
I wish but girls only allowed wear skirts for gender reason
Whoever told you that may have been making uneducated utterances via their bum.
AP1358C, AL1.04(Dec 13), P.70 (para0318) refers. Although it does state that these are ‘optional unless otherwise ordered’. Given the circumstances, I personally can’t see any reason why, in the absence of a correctly-fitting skirt, that your staff wouldn’t allow you to wear trousers.
[quote=“Gunner” post=18410]Whoever told you that may have been making uneducated utterances via their personal chocolate starfish.
AP1358C, AL1.04(Dec 13), P.70 (para0318) refers. Although it does state that these are ‘optional unless otherwise ordered’. Given the circumstances, I personally can’t see any reason why, in the absence of a correctly-fitting skirt, that your staff wouldn’t allow you to wear trousers.[/quote]
It’s moments like this that make me think AP1358C being on Ultilearn was done for exactly this reason. So the cadets know their rights.
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Careful LoveChristian…
I stood up for you before because I felt that Scrinson was being unduly intolerant considering that you’re young and new to the ATC.
However, approaching issues with the attitude you’ve tried thus far won’t help you very much.
You’re new to this and don’t yet know how things work.
“Educate not Berate” being my theme for the day…
As Gunner has said, your subs don’t go to pay the RAF anything. You’re not paying for a service and the RAF don’t “owe” us anything.
Granted, a 4 month delay may be frustrating but coming in with ‘Why the hell haven’t I got the skirt I’ve paid for?’ isn’t an appropriate way to address the problem.
I doubt you’d take that tone with your staff in person, so it’s advisable not to use it here either.
Without going in depth into budgetary constraints, suffice to say that UK troops don’t get paid ‘lots of stupid money’ to fight. What they are paid certainly isn’t affecting your prospects of University tuition.
There are occasionally difficulties in obtaining certain items of uniform.
If your unit has requested a skirt from your parent station and it has not arrived then the next best thing you can hope for is that they might be able to find another local squadron who does have your size.
The bottom line is that getting stroppy about it won’t magically make a skirt appear.