The propeller has come off

…a tutor again today apparently! Anyone heard anymore?

Details on FighterControl suggest both crew walked away. Forced landing outside Cranwell (about 4 fields away this time). Airframe reported as G-CGKC. No news on prop status :wink:

Sigh… preparing for another flying state change… How come this always happens when our squadron has an allocation coming up!!! :frowning:

Likewise!

What’s your source?

Tomato

BBC

Aaaannd…

Grounded!

Yup!

All ACO e-mail saying it’s time to stop spreading those wings!

They just posted this on the RAF and ACO official facebook pages:

"Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances, AEF flying is cancelled until further notice.

All ACO staff and cadets are advised not to travel to their local AEF until further notice. More information as as of when we can.

Thank you for your support!"

The BBC website has uploaded a picture where the propeller seems to still be attached!

Sorry to hear this- most unfortunate.

Two questions, neither of which I can remember having been answered (or asked before). One was from a Cadet, and it’s a fair point, though: are VPP-propped aircraft inherently more prone to losing prop-blades in the first place? This query had me stumped: anyone have any insights on this (Mike Bravo, you’ll maybe be up on this, I’m guessing, or in a position to ask one of our mutual friends?) But in any case, someone here’ll know.

Secondly, I take it that any grounding like this would apply across the whole order-book, and related variants? Or is it just the one ‘carrier’?

wilf_san

IMO this is getting beyond a joke.
Every few months it seems the Tutors are grounded for an indefinite period.

[quote=“glass half empty 2” post=2824]IMO this is getting beyond a joke.
Every few months it seems the Tutors are grounded for an indefinite period.[/quote]

What’s the alternative? Continue to fly with the attitude of “well it can’t happen again…” attitude and risk lives?

Don’t be silly.

Did he suggest that grounding the fleet was an inappropriate response, or that the reliability problems we seem to be seeing with the fleet are ridiculous?

I have seen no indication that this forced landing was as a result of a propeller problem but there is already speculation given the recent problems in that area. It could have been one of the many other possible reasons for putting an aircraft down in a field but if we do have an airframe with an inherent flaw then it needs to be re-engineered or replaced.

I too have seen it intimated that there was another prop issue but nothing firm.

Out of interest, how many times was the Chipmunk fleet grounded or the Bulldog? Genuine question not being funny.

In other news:

I see one prop blade. Bit tricky with a man stood there.

[quote=“5432golf” post=2842]In other news:

I see one prop blade. Bit tricky with a man stood there.[/quote]I know, stupid man!

However, the tutor has a tri-bladed prop and given the size of the blades (as we can see from the one which is attached) I would expect to see a prop visible at about 4-o-clock even with the man there. I don’t see a blade there.

I’m not sure the blade we do see has been feathered.

Compare this image…

Yes I and a work college were thinking the very same thing.

Well something has taken off a large chunk of tail and rudder.

Looks more like the rudder is fully deflected to one side to me.

Difficult to find a decent picture of it.