Staff Cadet Shooting Quals

Everyone Shooting and Marksmanship
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^ is this by design, though, or by ignorance by the people (SASC) writing the policy?

Has the discussion ever been had about including staff cadets?

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Easily fixed.

Define RAFAC CFAVs as CIs, SNCOs, Officers, Padres, Registered Civ Com (Legacy) and Staff Cadets.

Bosh!

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I was just about to add, the problem isn’t that CTC says CFAV only, the problem is our definition of CFAV. I am unsure where that exact definition comes from. Id say ACP 20, but it might need a change to JSP 814 to change that definition.

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Plenty of contradictions between single service policy and that JSP!

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Prior to 2007, everything was an authorisation

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The discussion has been had a couple of times. I had a discussion on this very issue with a RAFAC OF5 just last week.

It’s up to the RAFAC to fix, we can’t point fingers at SASC as generally they take on our advice in the pamphlet steering groups.

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And padres… don’t forget the 3rd branch!

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Thank you. That implies it is by design, which leads to the question: why does the organisation not trust staff cadets to hold range quals?

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Especially when it trusts (and allows them to exercise) qualifications in other risk to life areas (e.g. AT)

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Are there equivalent military (e.g. RAF) personnel that have the “equivalent” (Air Specialist whatever) rank / age experience who have range authorisations?

Minimum rank cpl (maybe lance cpl in RAF Regt)?

Personally, I would see safety supervisor as being the top level for a staff cadet.

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I wouldn’t be against that.

Equally, there are staff cadets I trust more than certain range qualified staff…

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Ha ah - maybe true. :wink:

The good old days, I was trained on the No 8 by a cdt cpl, for the .303, it was a cdt sgt. Sigh…

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^ which is a good point.

Why shouldn’t staff cadets be able to hold/practise SAAI?
If you really wanted some extra backside covering, you could caveat that they can only instruct, not conduct WHTs.

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Prior to 2007?

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Definitely. Commissioned in 2006, and held it for a few years as a CWO before.

Just checked an old 7257, SR range qual in 2004.

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I’m pretty sure they can be medics either even if they hold AFA

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Yeah, afaik staff cadets aren’t allowed to even attend the RAFAC Catastrophic Bleed module, for some unbeknownst reason…

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Really? Got to wonder who comes up with the rules…

Mad that as a 19 year old staff cadet I’ve dealt with cat haems on an ambulance but RAFAC are like no way :joy:

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