Name me an infantry regiment that wears a locket on the stable belt other than the Parachute regiment who would prefer the title airborne to infantry anyway. AFAIK infantry regiments wear leather straps as per the old RAF stable belt.
Name me an infantry regiment that wears a locket on the stable belt other than the Parachute regiment who would prefer the title airborne to infantry anyway. AFAIK infantry regiments wear leather straps as per the old RAF stable belt.[/quote]
I don’t know about the infantry, but the Girl Guides and Scouts used to use the same type of buckle. Perhaps the Regiment copied them?
To be fair to the Paras and the Booties, the last combat jump was apparently in 2010 (somewhere in Afghanistan by SFSG) and the Marines last amphibious commando operation was in Somalia in 2011.
Name me an infantry regiment that wears a locket on the stable belt other than the Parachute regiment who would prefer the title airborne to infantry anyway. AFAIK infantry regiments wear leather straps as per the old RAF stable belt.[/quote]
Yorkshire Regiment
Mercian Regiment
Royal Irish Regiment
London Regiment
Special Air Service
Royal Anglian Regiment
Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
And so on…
To be fair, I wasn’t saying that Infantry only wear lockets, it’s just that I’ve always heard the locket type belts called ‘Infantry style’ and the leather strap belts ‘cavalry style’.
When it comes to the ‘Regiment stable belt’ issue, I have my own doubts on the colour argument, since, like people say, those colours appear on RAF insignia before the Regiment existed. It’s still good for winding up self-important 'guins, though.
Given I know Officer’s in several of those regiments, some of them are wrong. At the end of the day this is going way off topic, and yes I agree Ive digressed. The simple answer that has been around as long as this debate is that it’s an optional item for private purchase that can be worn by cadets, just like mess dress is for SNCO’s and Officer’s of the ATC and RAFVR(T). So if a cadet wishes to wear one under the dress regs they can, there is no OC’s discression as frankly no one is at the pay grade to make that decision, as no one who sees cadets on a regular basis is at the requiiste rank to impose such a sanction- how about the argument of remove all optional items- then you’d all get in a tizz as you couldn’t swan around in mess kit and you could wear NO. 4 interim mess dress abd make do?
Sorry if it’s harsh, but frankly it’s what annoys the hell out of me with staff in this organisation.
Here endeth the rant
Rather than a generic statement then tell them which is wrong. Royal Regiment of Fusiliers & Royal Anglican have the classic leather stap style stable belt. I know little about The London Regiment but as it has 4 very distinct Companies formed from 4 historic regiments I guess each one has their own stable belt.
[quote=“wraycoon” post=5015]The simple answer that has been around as long as this debate is that it’s an optional item for private purchase that can be worn by cadets, just like mess dress is for SNCO’s and Officer’s of the ATC and RAFVR(T). So if a cadet wishes to wear one under the dress regs they can, there is no OC’s discression as frankly no one is at the pay grade to make that decision, as no one who sees cadets on a regular basis is at the requiiste rank to impose such a sanction- how about the argument of remove all optional items- then you’d all get in a tizz as you couldn’t swan around in mess kit and you could wear NO. 4 interim mess dress abd make do?
Sorry if it’s harsh, but frankly it’s what annoys the hell out of me with staff in this organisation.
Here endeth the rant[/quote]
Unless of course the OC/Staff Member in charge authorizes “standard dress” for parades and the such like, where the utmost uniformity is to be maintained.
Members of the Royal Anglican Regiment:
[quote=“wraycoon” post=5015]
Given I know Officer’s in several of those regiments, some of them are wrong. At the end of the day this is going way off topic, and yes I agree Ive digressed. The simple answer that has been around as long as this debate is that it’s an optional item for private purchase that can be worn by cadets, just like mess dress is for SNCO’s and Officer’s of the ATC and RAFVR(T). So if a cadet wishes to wear one under the dress regs they can, there is no OC’s discression as frankly no one is at the pay grade to make that decision, as no one who sees cadets on a regular basis is at the requiiste rank to impose such a sanction- how about the argument of remove all optional items- then you’d all get in a tizz as you couldn’t swan around in mess kit and you could wear NO. 4 interim mess dress abd make do?
Sorry if it’s harsh, but frankly it’s what annoys the hell out of me with staff in this organisation.
Here endeth the rant[/quote]
And how often do stable belt styles get swapped from one to the other to drum up cash for the PRI? All those examples came from photos, so the belts do exist, and that was just the current infantry regiments rather than the historical ones. Even if ‘some of them are wrong’ today, it still disproves your assertion that only Paras wear locket belts.
So, nyer, nyer. 
Agree with the rest of your post though. Never seen the appeal of No5s for CFAVs (or anyone actually).
[quote=“GOM” post=5019]Members of the Royal Anglican Regiment:
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Good Spot GOM! Karma Added!!
The current design uses leather strap buckles. The old one, worn many years ago now, had a front fastening plate buckle.
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Royal Anglian Regiment
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The current design uses leather strap buckles. The old one, worn many years ago now, had a front fastening plate buckle.[/quote]
Same as the Fusiliers…but shhh…don’t tell Wraycoon. I’m hoping he’ll be back to ‘casually’ remind us how he’s an army officer, dontchano. That’s if he hasn’t exploded from the effort of trying to be the world’s youngest Colonel Blimp.
You mean Wraycoon is…[gasp]…an ARMY OFFICER!!!
Well, I never knew that…
Back on topic please chaps 
I don’t think it’s fair to say Cadets ‘should’ wear stable belts, since that implies an element of compulsion and it’s not OK to order someone to wear an optional item of dress.
However, dress regs state that Cadets may wear stable belts if they wish.
On certain occasions, desire for a ‘uniform appearence’ may trump this.
Boom. Thread over.
Love and kisses,
T_L ex-cadet and current Air Force dress up hobbyist
I don’t think it’s fair to say Cadets ‘should’ wear stable belts, since that implies an element of compulsion and it’s not OK to order someone to wear an optional item of dress.
However, dress regs state that Cadets may wear stable belts if they wish.
On certain occasions, desire for a ‘uniform appearence’ may trump this.
Boom. Thread over.
Love and kisses,
T_L ex-cadet and current Air Force dress up hobbyist[/quote]
I made a similar point on pg1 of this thread…5 pages later
I think we all knew the answer, but wasn’t it fun having 5 pages of random stable belt related banter?
Hear, hear.
Imagine if all we did here was that type of “Question - Answer - Closed” discussion. It’d be boring as hell.
Having enjoyed said banter and thoroughly livened up an otherwise dull and tedious thread, I think it’s safe to say I’m not among those who seem to be doing their best to avoid being suspected of having a sense of humour.
No, I agree. It was ok once it got off topic lol.
For the record, I wasn’t having a pop with my last post. I was just amused at how threads have a habit of going in circles.
just to go back a bit and throw a spanner in the works ref army stable belts. The old metal/leather buckle debate. Some units (reme, rlc, ramc, rsigs for example) OR wear a metal buckle but WO1/Off wear a leather buckle.
Also a bit of a legacy from 5th airbourne but some units put a 16th AAB buckle onto their stable regardless of the original buckle. Also certain individual regiments have a completely different stable belt (colour/buckle) to the rest of their corps (18 sigs, 16 RAMC for example)