Ladies and Gents,
I know this has been asked before but I haven’t been able to find anything as yet. Does anyone have some generic ToRs for Sgt/FS/WO (ATC)? I am not really looking for ToRs relating to specific jobs on the Squadron like ‘stores’ etc, but more the general role of being a SNCO in the ATC.
Someone must have written some out there internet land?!
Any help much appreciated.
Cheers
Custodian of drill, discipline and dress regulations on the squadron! Don’t have tor’s but this kind of sums it up in my eyes!
Or chief brew bitch… the brew bitch all other brew bitches look up to 
After a fair amount of Sharepoint searching, I found the following - thoughts?
[quote]Post: SQUADRON DRILL &DISCIPLINE OFFICER
Current Post Holder:
1 PURPOSE
To ensure the Squadron complies with all the ATC Operating Procedures listed in ACP19 & ACP20B.
To act as an ADULT supervisor as requested by the Commanding Officer whilst undertaking Drill, Tuition or Project work.
To assist in the running of Squadron activities as requested by the Training Officer iaw the training programme.
To act as the Squadron Warrant Officer until appt. as an AWO.
2 ACCOUNTABILITIES
The Squadron Drill & Discipline officer is accountable to the Commanding Officer or to the duty Officer of OUR Squadron.
To ensure the Squadrons Standards are maintained at the highest practicable standards.
To assist the selection of Cadet NCO’s with the Squadron Uniformed staff.
3 PRINCIPAL TASKS AND RESPONSIBILITIES
To undertake all Drill & Discipline training in accordance with AP818.
To ensure the armoury is locked and all weapons and ammunition accounted for on a weekly basis.
To ensure the security of the ATC areas of the Cadet Centre are maintained and advise the Commanding Officer of any breach or weakness to remedial action can put in place.
To instruct and demonstrate in the lesson activity iaw ACP’s and associated publications as requested by the Training Officer.
4 INTERFACING RESPONSIBILITIES
To advise the Training Officer of any planned absence.
To be available for at least 12 hours a month for Squadron & Wing activities
The Drill & discipline Officer will work under agreed ACTO’s as laid down in the ACP’s when undertaking Squadron or Wing events.
At Wing events they are encouraged to volunteer their support to work as directed by the Officer in charge of the event.
5 AUTHORITY
The Squadron Drill &Discipline Officer is authorised to carry out the duties mentioned in para 3 above in accordance with the ACP’s.
By holding an ASNCO ATC Appointment the duty and roles of an Officer are as laid down in AP1919 & ACP20B.
To deputise for the Duty Officer in his absence.
Discipline actions. Any problems are to be reported to the Commanding Officer or the duty officer in their Absence.
If SQEP’d able to lead activities offsite in accordance with the relevant ACP20A ACTO.
6 PRINCIPAL REFERENCE DOCUMENTS
AP1919 REGULATIONS OF THE AIR TRAINING CORPS
AP1896 SCALE OF RAF EQUIPT.
ACP20A & 20B AIR CADET INSTRUCTIONS
ACP17 ADVENTURE TRAINING
AP 818 DRILL & DISCIPLINE
7 QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS
Academic: GCSE or Above
Internal: criminal & security screened prior to appt. & taking part in activities.
To be an uniformed member of staff.
Completed or due to attend either an I.O.T. or I.SNCO Course at HQAC.
Experience: Fully conversant with ATC procedures. At least 1 years in service in the ATC.
8 HEALTH & SAFETY
Perform their work in accordance with their training such that they do not place themselves or others at risk.
Do not attempt to carry out activities or perform any task nor operate any equipment unless they have correctly trained and authorised to do so.
Use the correct equipment for their activity, ensuring that it is maintained in a safe condition and immediately report any known defects to their instructor/ Officer.
Use the correct protective clothing and equipment provided for their safety and ensure it is maintained in a safe condition.
Report any unsafe or environmentally unsound acts and conditions to the Commanding Officer such that remedial action can be taken to manage the risk.
Report all accidents and personal injuries to their Duty Officer
Use the main access ways as provided, comply with relevant safety notices and not enter any area where they may be placed at risk or do not have the authorisation to enter.
Conform with the fire fighting and emergency procedures applicable to this Unit.
Keep their workplace in a safe and tidy condition at all times
8 TRAINING
To undertake training as agreed with the Commanding officer by attending Wing, Regional or HQAC Courses as requested.
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I think there’s a definite lack of “coffee white with two” but setting that aside…
What do you want your SNCOs (ATC) to do?
I don’t think you should have TORs for NCO (ATC) or Officer (VRT) without them having an assigned role. IF that role is Sqn WO/SNCO then fine, drill and discip pig will do, but I’ve been on sqns where the FS/WO ATC was the Training Officer, and I’m sure there are a number of other positions/permutations out there.
If the NCO (or officer) doesnt have a role then their TORs will amount to general dogs body (see my above).
Numerous…mostly negative to be honest.
Not a good document.
Numerous…mostly negative to be honest.
Not a good document.[/quote]
My highlight of that text was the qualifications requirements.
What would be really handy is if the organisation offered newly appointed SNCOs with some kind of guidance document that actually explained what the role of a new Sgt is on a Sqn…such a thing doesn’t exist as far as I know?!
Numerous…mostly negative to be honest.
Not a good document.[/quote]Agreed - it seems to be trying to be a lot of things and loses its way a few times.
The only TORs any member of generic staff should require are those which state the minimum expectations of the ACO: meet your minimum hours, dress appropriately, try to let the squadron know if you are away, follow the rules.
More details should be added to TORs for particular ROLES on the squadron and would apply to those persons, whatever their rank, who are assigned to those roles.
Numerous…mostly negative to be honest.
Not a good document.[/quote]
Unfortunately I would have also have to disagree with a lot of it too - It seams to try and merge several different areas on a sqn covered by other roles including Arms & Ammo (Adjutant), Drill (Technically Training Officer) and Attendance (Also Adjutant). The individual staff structure on the squadron can also have a bearing.
The trouble is “Discipline” can be quite hard to pin down as it can vary from one situation to another and the local policy will be set by one of the executive roles on the Sqn (CO, TO or Adj) as well as being down to an individuals interpretation.
Going back to the original post, The ToR should be relevant to what you would like the individual to do. I would go from a starting point: -
WO(ATC)
Being able to deputise for any Sqn VR(T) Officer (i.e. be familiar with ACTO 94 and the role profiles)
Responsible for the development and Mentoring of Adult NCOs on Sqn. (in liaison with CO & Training Officer)
Responsible for mentoring and the continuing development of Cadet NCOs on the unit (in liaison with the Training Officer).
without supervision Be able to take charge of planning, approving and delivering events & Activities inc Overnight Camps
FS(ATC) - To develop themselves towards the rank of WO
Without supervision Be able to plan and deliver an activity.
Mentoring and development of Sgt(ATC) (in liaison with SWO & Training Officer)
mentoring of Cadet NCOs on the unit
Sgt (ATC) - Personal development to FS(ATC)
Under Supervision, Be able to plan and deliver an activity.
Mentoring of Cadet NCOs on the unit
Development of skills & abilities to assist in the delivery of sqn activities in a variety of areas.
To be fair I think Perry Mason has the situation summed up pretty well - it depends what you want them to do and what you want them to achieve as an Adult NCO
TOR’s, job descriptions
I agree to a point but let’s not forget we are volunteers!
People join for a variety of reasons with differing degrees of available time
It is all sounding more like full time work than the hobby I started :mad:
Can’t you use the CACWO TORs on sharepoint as a start?
I’m sure there was a P-Letter about Adult NCOs and what’s expected of them at some point too?