Rubbish Collection - Do you still have one?

So, following criticism from our RFCA about the amount of rubbish we produce, I contacted the council to ask for another bin.

They have now told me that since I raised the issue, we are a club and therefore not entitled to household waste collection or recycling services, and so they’re stopping both in less than one month’s time.

To make things better, neither the RFCA nor HQAC are willing to pay for it, which gives us the option of “take it to the tip ourselves”.

So, points to note - if you currently get your rubbish bins taken away, DO NOT ADMIT THIS TO ANY COUNCIL WASTE DISPOSAL UNIT.

Secondly, don’t expect anyone to pay for private commercial waste collection for you.

Does anyone have any better suggestions than the above?

We just put ours in the big blue communal skip on the Barracks and it hasn’t come back yet.

You should never ask you committee to write to your local mp to raise the issue. Never. Ok?

Moral of the story? Sometimes it’s better to keep one’s mouth shut…!

Fairly standard; we have to take ours to the tip ourselves.

Having met my local MP several times, he’s very much a yes man and wouldn’t say boo to a goose!

I so want to hear that story now!

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Think. About. It. Carefully.

The rubbish collection situation is absolutely disgraceful across the Corps. We either have to ILLEGALLY take it to the tip ourselves (because it is classed as ‘commercial waste’ rather than domestic waste), thereby risking prosecution as individuals and collectively, or get the Civcom to pay the extortionate bill for commercial waste collection, which is surely something that should be paid by the RFCA.

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Missed. My. Point. Entirely…

Back on topic though, a very sorry state of affairs but is anyone really surprised? The best you can hope for is call the council back, hope you speak to someone different and say its all a terrible mistake and it is a domestic property.

Let’s be real though. It’s roughly £10 for a container the size of 4 wheelie bins. If the Sqn recycles paper and cans (which are generally disposable through staff homes recycling or some local authorities do for free) it would take a month or so to fill that. Hardly breaking the bank is it.

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Missed. My. Point. Entirely…

Back on topic though, a very sorry state of affairs but is anyone really surprised? The best you can hope for is call the council back, hope you speak to someone different and say its all a terrible mistake and it is a domestic property.[/quote]

Fraud. Nice touch and I bet it would put the ACO in a brilliant light. :ohmy:

I’m just stunned we’re in thus position. I was unaware of it til earlier today! How has no one done anything about it?

Probably because units have been getting away with it for years, but now councils are tightening the purse strings, no frills rules apply.

The “commercial” nature of an ATC hut has been a problem for years and affects all manner of things leaving us with paying OTT for normal things.
Until we had a CWC member with the foresight to put himself as the named individual for BT about 8/9 years ago, the sqn paid business rates for the phone.
We’ve never had a bin collection. The sqn used to take drink cans to a local scrap merchant and got paid for them, but the bottom fell out of that market and wasn’t worth the effort. Now some takes it home or we put it in the local pub’s trade bin, with the manager’s OK.
I’d imagine we get screwed over for all smanner of ervices, getting charged commercial as opposed to domestic rates.

But like so many things, these with a little bit of imagination, a half-decent business manager at HQAC could sort out … oh yes we first need a business manager. I won’t go there on the imagination part.

A major pain in the backside but one that ought to be so easily soretd out :?

It’s not a HQAC problem though although I’m sure the Org Branch will have a view on the policy? At the end of the day though the ACO don’t actually “own” the property - resolution lies with either the Defence Infrastructure Organisation (good luck sorting anything out with them :evil: ) or the RFCA?

But it needs one of the HQAC mandarins to kick start it, but I very much they or anyone else gives a monkey’s, as we, as ever in the volunteer side left to our own devices sort it out.

I note that places of religion and communal halls are except from said legislation… so we just need RFCAs to change the usage of the buildings are we’re in!

GHE2 - Yes I see what you mean and that’s fair comment however my point is that HQAC have no control over this so they can only be a ‘postbox’ in the process - albeit one that ought to be able to deliver some clout.

Cans, bottles, paper etc gets recycled and taken home thanks to the goodwill of the staff.
Everything else ends up being taken home also.

The council will not grant us a refuse collection and even if they did as we are on a civilian airport so have nowhere to put out the bins.

As is usual it has to go home with us.

A bit similar to the situation with fuel for camping stoves - we are allowed it but not allowed to store it but it is fine if you keep it at home

Again, within the letter of the law you (and we) are having to break the law by passing ‘commercial’ waste off as domestic waste.