I’ve seen this posted on tik tok by some cadet and he’s telling his viewers its in ACP1358 and it’s allowed? I swear its for Marches only and only with a wing crest.
I’m pretty sure this is not in the rules.
The wearing of heraldic badges is definitely not currently in the dress regulations.
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It’s common at RM events. Lots of teams used to wear a brassard when road marching, which I flat out refused to do for my teams because it looked horrific on 95s.
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It definitely isn’t permitted.
There’s a fair number of senior personnel within RAFAC who aren’t RM’s biggest fans. There’s no chance they’d sign off on anything that helped to advertise it to a greater audience.
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Should’ve stuck with working blue shirts with PCS trousers (in lieu of OG lightweights) for RM. Would’ve looked a lot better with brassards, badges, medals, etc.
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I want that vomit reaction again…
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I will give a factual answer. This is not my personal opinion as it was written by the original ACRMO and not the current person holding the position. The ACRoMaTIs is a policy document that has been approved by the Air Cadet Management board and the the policy for conducting road marching including the wearing of uniform and badging and how and where they can be worn.
The ACRoMaTIs states that the wearing of the RM badge and Wing flash as shown in the above photo has been approved for RM activities while road marching.
This is different from another approved policy document which has been approved by Air cadet management board. ACP1358.
The bigger question is in what documents should policy sit and where its should not. Is a statement on a SharePoint page policy? I a year old IBN policy? Dose policy in one ACP override Policy in a different ACP?
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As I’ve said several times before, policies need to be aligned. For years, ACP 1358 said CIs could never wear any form of uniform while the RM, fieldcraft, shooting, and RPAS policies detailed situations in which they could / should / must wear PCS.
Rather than inserting uniform regulations into the ACRoMaTIs, they should have had the appropriate changes made to ACP 1358.
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We should have a single source of the truth for each topic which requires regulation. In this example, if allowed, it should be in ACP1358. This is like each subject’s ACTO/ACP containing where its respective badge should be worn.
Seems like the sort of thing that might be on @AlexCorbin ’s to do list in his new role.
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The question then becomes which document has superiority?
If it’s the ACP, then what the ACRoMaTi says is irrelevant to uniform.
Its petmitted in ACROMATI 006
although I also believe its with wing badge as well.
Its also only for road marching events. When not road marching an empty left blanking plate is to be worn
And this is why it needs to go through one single process, because while giving direction on uniform is reasonable, editing the regulations independently isn’t.
If it isn’t centrally authorised, it also leads to “well my OC says it’s fine” because we set a precedent and lose that single point of authority for things that should be incredibly simple to follow.
I’ve had my cadets quoting that they’re permitted to wear wing fieldcraft badges “during fieldcraft only” and I’ve had to tell them to reference the core regulations.
It just makes life harder than it needs to be and sows confusion.
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This is what aiming for.
Its a huge tasking though but watch this space
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Singly THE best ever intro to a reply!
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I didn’t think there were any approved wing badges?
There are.
HIOW for example is all legit
Sorry, bad terminology on my part there. I know there are nine or so wings with approved badges, but didn’t think there were any heraldic badges approved for wear on No. 3 SD yet (and the work to get that approval would start with regions)?
For daily and regular wear that is correct. RM seems to have circumvented that process for the acromatis
None take precedence over another. All approved by AC Mgt board. All equally correct
Agreed, million times over.
Our ACPs are a mess. Be should have either policy documents or enabling documents.
Policy, this is our rules, enabling, this is how to organise, authorise and run an activity.
Enabling documents should not hold policy.
The only thing the ACRoMaTi should say about uniform is “Uniform should be worn in accordance with ACP1358 for CFAVs and cadets and service instructors should follow their parent service instructions”.
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So if I can get the wearing to thermal smocks as an external layer into ACP 18 it’ll be ok in the range?
UBACS can be allowed via ACP 16
