Unfortunately that isn’t a thing, the only people I know of to commission at Uni are Dr’s/Dentists
Sorry in the RAF CWO would be Commissioned WO they do the CWOC (knives and forks course as they call it) and commission as Flt Lt
Interesting - So there is no longer a concept of Acting Pilot Officer on UAS any longer? Previously those in reciept of bursaries were awarded their commission whilst at uni and attended UAS in that rank. If the commission is now no longer awarded until completion of MIOT, and at the lowest rank of Pilot Officer, then is it the case that those on the University Air Squadron Bursary Scheme are Officer Cadets on UAS now?
That begs the question therefore, who does use Acting Pilot Officer rank other than RAFAC?
That’s a complete oxymoron… one commissioned you’re no longer a Warrant Officer ![]()
Interesting point, even engineers on DTUS have their seniority start from the day of graduation. In the Regulars A/PO stopped being a thing 10+ years ago (!?) whenever the date was the MOD scrapped the Grad/Post Grad/Non Grad seniority. I think it’s only RAFAC that have acting Plt Off now.
Not that I’m bitter but I was in the first cohort where you graduated as a Plt Off even with a masters, if I’d have not dithered at Uni and joined 6 months earlier I’d have got Fg Off
ha
It does seem it but they do enjoy the distinction still ![]()
This from the University of London Air Sqn site
Blockquote Members are considered part of the RAF Volunteer Reserve and most students hold the rank of Officer Cadet, which has the status and privileges of an Officer. Some may obtain commissions in the RAF Volunteer Reserve, in the rank of Acting Pilot Officer. Medicine and Dentistry students, on obtaining a Cadetship, are commissioned into the RAF in the rank of Pilot Officer.
I think it’s that the course they complete is the Commissioning Warrant Officer Course, recently completed by the previous 22 Gp WO who is now Flt Lt Cotman
I pity any poor soul coming to this thread with little knowledge and trying to use it to unpick our structures!
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Officer cadet only exists in the RAF proper, the UAS and (I think) among the VRT AEF officers. It’s been replaced with APO for the Cadet Forces Commission.
Very late but Service Instructors can be from any of the three armed forces.
Like the Army’s LEC - Late Entry Comission - WO1s comission as Captains
Just to confuse things further with some Armyisms
Somebody at a UOTC, who has passed the Officer Selection board, has seniority start from when they join UOTC/when they pass their board (whichever is later)
BUT
This seniority counts towards subaltern proverbial sword measuring contests and medals, but not time based promotions
madness
If this is a wiki, how do we address the numerous errors in the OP?
@DJRice can you give us edit access to this please ![]()
Hi,
you need to move up a level before you can edit a wiki post. It stops any random account from editing posts. ![]()
A level above Typhoon?
i tried when i was typhoon lol
I’ve Spotted that I can edit all your wiki posts, just not those created by other users
Is there a permission that allows Spitfire and up for example to edit all posts with the Wiki tab?
I edited this to get rid of all the mistakes I could find however do not have edit access so could someone please update the original post? Thank you
Source: https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/who-we-are/ranks/
Uniformed Staff Ranks:
(Adult Instructor) Commissioned Officer Ranks: To be Saluted
Junior Officers
- APO (sometimes A/Plt Off) - Acting Pilot Officer
- Plt Off - Pilot Officer
- Fg Off - Flying Officer
- Flt Lt - Flight Lieutenant
Senior Officers
- Sqn Ldr - Squadron Leader
- Wg Cdr - Wing Commander
- Gp Capt - Group Captain
Air Officers (Rank only held by an RAF/RAFR/RAFVR officer currently holding a Full Time Reserve Service (FTRS) post)
- Air Cdre - Air Commodore
(Adult Instructor) Non-Commissioned Officer Ranks: Not to be Saluted
Senior NCOs (SNCOs)
Groundcrew
- Sgt (with white stripe) - Sergeant (Probation)
- Sgt - Sergeant
- FS - Flight Sergeant
- WO - Warrant Officer
Aircrew
Ex RAF Aircrew OR NCOs serving on a VGS/AEF; Distinguished by a Gold RAF Eagle above the chevrons (but below a FS’ Gold crown), for MAcr it is the Royal Coat of Arms with an RAF Gold Eagle surrounded by Silver laurel leaves.
(1 * SEE THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE GLOSSARY. )
- Sgt (Aircrew) - Sergeant Aircrew
- FS (Aircrew) - Flight Sergeant Aircrew
- MACr - Master Aircrew
All Non-Commissioned Aircrew are still referred to as their rank, e.g. Sgt (Aircrew) is referred to as “Sergeant” apart from MACr which are referred to as “Sir/Ma’am”.
Service Instructors:
- Members that are serving in the Armed Forces either as a Regular or Reserve. They will wear the uniform of their parent unit/service. They are to be addressed as “Staff” for SIs below NCO ranks, their rank for NCOs and “Sir/Ma’am” for WOs and Officers.
Cadet Non-Commissioned Officer (NCO) Ranks: Not to be Saluted
Junior NCOs
- Cdt LCpl - Cadet Lance Corporal (CCF ONLY)
- Cdt Cpl - Cadet Corporal
Senior NCOs
- Cdt Sgt - Cadet Sergeant
- Cdt FS - Cadet Flight Sergeant
- CWO - Cadet Warrant Officer
Note: Cdt is usually omitted before all cadet ranks apart from the “C” in CWO.
Non-Uniformed Staff Not to be Saluted (unless informed otherwise)
- CI - Civillian Instructor
- Padre/Chaplain
1*
Flight Sergeant Aircrew and Sergeant Aircrew are referred to as normal ranks like Flight Sergeant, and Sergeant. The rank is written as the normal rank abbreviation but may have “(Aircrew)” after it. In 2020, these ranks were granted use to be used in the RAFAC.
