That’s very true.
My core focus is relieving a load of pressure on the wider team, including permanent staff who very much do get paid to deal with more essential matters.
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So this might be a caveat but if this particular RAF Sqn
- Was defunct
- was not RAF e.g. Canadian
- was not presented a Standard
- & had not officially registered their Sqn badge with the college of arms
Then I can see it being granted….might be worth affected sqns (ie those currently using) asking first before redesigning new ones.
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The more you tighten your grip on stuff like this, the more units will slip through your fingers.
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I get that. To be clear again, this isn’t the focus or priority.
We can make a huge thing about doing things “the right way” without focussing on anything punitive.
If people aren’t motivated by a positive approach, then fine. I can make myself very busy with those who want to do it right.
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This is probably the key bit. Again, speaks to a main reason to do it right — stops someone pinching your identity!
Interesting consideration about whether nationality matters. As they’re all granted from the same font of honour, I’d expect “no copying” would still apply.
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On the question of timeframes, the current guesstimate (once the pencil drawing has been agreed and it enters the queue for painting) is 12 months.
So the more I can accelerate my part, the better.
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Why fight so hard over it, especially as you aren’t with the Air Cadets anymore
You’ve got someone who is passionate, who is helping squadrons who want to, and educating those who don’t know. There is absolutely nothing negative within his posts it comes across very much as hey here’s this, there is a policy but it’s not well maintained but if you want a hand get in touch.
We loose more staff through the “don’t bother” fight than we do through anything else. And those tend to be the ones that are oh well not a loss they haven’t been on long.
We can celebrate a positive thing for what it is - it’s not taking away from anything.
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Stand by for the ban on all non-authorised badges.
Throw away those Sqn branded Polo Shirts!
Ensure all designs contains a phallic symbol.
I can think of much better ways to spend £650 for the real benefit of the Cadets!
It would be great to get a library of all authorised badges set up somewhere on SharePoint, maybe within the Influence Hub.
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I can still see what you wrote, because of my unlimited Mod Powers and you made some fair points which you shouldn’t have backed away from, I can see how I’m coming across so I will explain my thoughts:
Honestly, I’m playing Devil’s Advocate here, (Actually playing it, unlike some people on this forum…) because I’ve seen people come in with lots of energy in things like this plenty of times in the past, and they’ve burnt out.
I’ve had exactly this issue on my last unit, and fought for ages to get a badge I think is completely wrong for the unit changed, to no avail. There’s no will from the OC to do it, and when I questioned some Alumni about the badge, I got a lot of flak, because it was their badge that they served under.
This is a big task, and OC1324 seems to get that, but when starting off with thankless tasks like this you’ve got to have a plan to deal with the resistance to change, especially when you have no way of enforcing it. if you don’t steel yourself to that at the outset, it will get you down. I’m an example of this myself, I got so sick of the organisation that I have left, I’m holding on as AO in two separate matters, and all those processes have done is reaffirm my decision to leave.
Standby!
I’ve just received the official list from the Inspectorate of RAF Badges, so we can publish that (and intend to build upon it so everyone can see those official paintings etc)
A single version of the truth will be incredibly valuable.
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waiting to see that a bunch of sqns already have an approved badge they weren’t aware of….
It would bring me so much joy if that actually happened haha.
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I deleted it because it wasn’t actually relevant to the discussion of badges strayed into retention, I didn’t want to take away from the conversation!
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Put it back because I agree with you! 
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One of my local squadrons has had a approved badge via the college of arms. The system was painfull but I must admit the badge looks fantastic. On the point of using the badge on Squadron Banners. HQAC put a stop to this a while ago, for new banners only. I know of a couple of Squadrons with old banners that have had them repaired so many times they are like triggers broom… Personaly I think they look great.
No they didn’t. The guidance is still on Sharepoint, and still remains extant as far as I can tell.
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One form of ‘soft enforcement’ would be to get the HQAC media team on board with not promoting any social media posts that include unofficial or non-compliant badges (similar to how they already try to avoid promoting uniform violations). Once the regions have official badges, do the same with their media teams, etc.
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technically they don’t comply with ACP1358C anyway - and many still remain. a second order repeating the request but for a different reason isn’t going to shift opinion of those who didn’t shift first time around
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I believe they are out of scope as private purchase so are effectively civilian dress.
The exception is event dress with polo top & mtps but that needs an specific authorisation (& approved badges are factored into that)