Apparently, there’s been some changes in how the RAF wears No3s:
With the caveat that the RAFAC is keeping 1358 as-is until the DPSG meets. Thoughts?
(Apologies if this has been discussed elswhere, I’ve only just been told about it and hadn’t seen an existing thread)
The idea that RAFAC WOs would willingly allow ‘mixed tucking’ on units tickles me.
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I love my issue softie, it has an epaulet for my rank slide, it is much lighter than a smock and it is much better at keeping me warm. Not even going to go down the private purchase argument…….. allyness saves lives.
I believe we’ve been contacted by the RAF to offload a load of the green softie jackets that they are in the process of swapping for the MTP ones.
This is likely in response to the idea that you have to have an MTP outer layer.
Adorned with a high visibility belt, no doubt.
The whole point of a softie jacket is that it is outer wear. The insolation comes from the air trapped between the fibres of the insolation material. either down or a synthetic material. Putting a layer over the insolation compresses the fibres, forcing out the air and reducing the insolation to almost nothing in synthetic jackets. Thus turning a very effective insolation layer into useless layer under a smock. Just saying
@AlexCorbin is this on the radar of the DPSG? Anything been discussed about allowing us to wear a thermal smock as an outer layer?
Currently it says:
g. Thermal Smock. Cold conditions undergarment, or suitable mid layer, not to be worn as outer layer.
Which would stop us wearing it even if we did have the MTP version.
Discussing all this stuff in Feb. So stand by.
Discussing… mixed tucking…?
Are you guys ok?
Everything goes through this process. It’s about governance, transparency and consistency.
Jacket light weight. Is it a jacket or is it a shirt. Nobody knows.
It is called a jacket but worn as a shirt. The jacket is called a smock but the barrack shirt is a shirt. But, when CS95 bas brought in the Jacket Light Weight was the same design as the current MTP barrack shirt.
What ever it was, it was designed to be untucked. This didn’t get past the D&D people as untucked is scruffy and scruffy is not allowed in HM forces. Scruffiness, leads to sloppiness, leads to bad drills, leads to dead soldiers and soldiers are not allowed to be dead and scruffy.
I heard the reversal in the initial policy of wearing the [s]jacket[/s] shirt untucked was due to slump in stable belt sales in the Army. Apparently, this led to much chest-poking at the RSMs’ conference.
Anyone seen any images of these MTP softies? And will it affect the buffalo anyone know?
Is it talking about this type of thing?
They’re popular in UKSC and you can get them from stores if you know who / how to ask (so I’m told!)
Well my Son was kitted out at stores just before Christmas and they were all issued green softies and Buffalos. No mention of MTP softies.
I’ve just had a look at the clothing section of MyRAF and there are no MTP Softies on there. Only Buffalos and Olive Softies.
I’d say carry on as normal until an IBN is issued.
The one good thing about the new MTP23 is that they are more fitted so you don’t look like you’re wearing a spud sack. Maybe that’s why they may allow it to be worn untucked.
That’s the first thing I did, too: having only recently been issued an olive one.
One of our SIs yesterday came onto squadron with there jacket tucked out it’s looked so wrong. It just looks unprofessional and basically makes stable belts useless.
I can’t get why anyone bothers to wear a stable belt in No.3
