Are we allowed to carry them? Someone has donated one to the squadron and I’m wondering what the rulings are on them! I remember vaguely some ruling about it ages ago!
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Assuming you mean the blue RAF rucksack with the eagle on the flap, nope.
(my red-bold)
I can only assume that’s another supply-based decision, since the RAF barely seem to have enough serviceable to kit their own.
One would have to wonder why we aren’t permitted to carry them if their were obtained from other sources?
I believe that at the time that the decision of ‘no’, that it was one based upon availability. That said, the quality was exceedingly poor which exacerbated the problem, these days a standard black, non-identified version is issued.
Of late, it is rare that I see one of the old blue rucksacks with embroidered 'hawk as most of the boys and girls use a higher quality bag that they’ve bought for themselves. About the only pers that see using the black rucksacks about station are the snotties.
I imagine they were banned in the interests of good taste. They really are hideous.
Yeah, the black ones are far better. I can’t even remember where I acquired mine from (it was probably via disposal bins) but it’s still going several years later.
I know a few fellow ATC staff and cadets who use these for day to day things and as yet no one’s told them off.
I know a few fellow ATC staff and cadets who use these for day to day things and as yet no one’s told them off.[/quote]
So, there’s a job for you…
Because nobody cares?
At the end of the day, there are more important things going on in people’s lives … like having a brew.
When would it matter? When you’re on an RAF station? How many cadets or adults would be on one as a cadet or adult in the ATC enough for it to make any difference. Fingers of one hand?
Let’s be honest the sort of thing highlighted is only going to matter to a few in our club, because no one knows or cares about it. It wouldn’t bother me, as it’s unimportant.
So much kit has been available on the high street for decades and in recent years online. You see people wearing uniform or using uniform items, to the point that it’s become a nonsense to have rules like the one quoted. Would people in all seriousness get that bent out of shape that they’d go up to a complete stranger say something. No. Well not unless they potentially have a desire to experience pain or being told to ‘go away’.
I used to wear a greatcoat and RAF “flasher mac”, that I picked up, because they did the job and wear other things, because they do the job. I know a bloke who shoots and wears DPM trousers and jacket with a belt and pouches that he wears to keep cartridges in, because it was cheaper than a specialist kit.
The reason they were not permitted for ACO personnel was because they were ALL meant to be returned to stores for PWS re-issue or disposal. There was therefore no legal way for ACO personnel to obtain them (like MTP in the early days). Our local clothing stores certainly had a pallet full of PWS rucksacks that were awaiting re-issue. That ruling has probably now gone by the wayside and if so, the dress reg is out of date and should be binned.
Ahh sod it. I’ll use it
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[quote=“glass half empty 2” post=16483]At the end of the day, there are more important things going on in people’s lives … like having a brew.
When would it matter? When you’re on an RAF station? How many cadets or adults would be on one as a cadet or adult in the ATC enough for it to make any difference. Fingers of one hand?
Let’s be honest the sort of thing highlighted is only going to matter to a few in our club, because no one knows or cares about it. It wouldn’t bother me, as it’s unimportant.
So much kit has been available on the high street for decades and in recent years online. You see people wearing uniform or using uniform items, to the point that it’s become a nonsense to have rules like the one quoted. Would people in all seriousness get that bent out of shape that they’d go up to a complete stranger say something. No. Well not unless they potentially have a desire to experience pain or being told to ‘go away’.
I used to wear a greatcoat and RAF “flasher mac”, that I picked up, because they did the job and wear other things, because they do the job. I know a bloke who shoots and wears DPM trousers and jacket with a belt and pouches that he wears to keep cartridges in, because it was cheaper than a specialist kit.[/quote]Well, the OP asked a simple question - is he allowed to wear it.
Incubus gave a simple answer; no he isn’t. Pretty simple really.
I was given one many years ago, I went on annual camp to RAF Halton with it and it got confiscated the day I arrived 
Cadet or staff?!
As a staff member id tell them to jog on.
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As a cadet I would like to know where the authority to confiscate came from. Surely it would be theft.
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Regardless of whether authority to use the RAF Branded Daysack exists. I’d rather poke my own eyes out than use one! The Crabsack and the equally poor quality all-black Crowsack are horrible bits of kit! Put your hand in your pocket and get a decent daysack! Horrible bits of kit! 
Talking of which just got a motherlode…
Anyone want an RAF Bag?!
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I saw one in use by a serving officer yesterday! Apparently, the owner was issued it when he joined the RAF several years ago. I can only assume he has never put anything large or reasonably heavy in it, or actually tried to use it for its intended purpose; mine lasted 3 months!
To be fair I have one I have used since they were first issued. Use it for most cadet stuff. Couple of problems now, but generally not too bad
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