Quick Questions…

Can you wear uniform whilst using your unit’s EUF if it is public land?

If it’s been approved, and the land owner hasn’t listed a restriction, yes.

If you’re wearing it properly, no one should know you’re even there…

It seems social media has answered my earlier question and VGS staff do indeed wear ‘cadet’ flying badges (i.e. the one on her flying suit: not the one being presented).

Do we have anyone from a VGS who can comment?

What is the badge on the flying suite? I can’t enlarge the photo to see what it is and what badge is getting presented. I am not even sure which way the presentation is going.

The CGI is wearing gold ACPS wings and being presented with gliding instructor wings by the OC (who is already wearing the same).

Removed - I think I was talking tosh!!

My understanding is that VGSs seem to do that, whereby staff will wear their cadet wings on flying suits.

I assume the rationale is to convey their experience, considering many of them will be on a VGS for a very, very long time before they’re able to get wings they’re entitled to retain on uniform.

I haven’t checked, but feel pretty confident saying it’s probably not correct.

I did submit an ASTRA to propose that staff be permitted to wear something like “C” wings if, for example, they’re qualified pilots as that’s a very relevant qual to highlight and inspire our cadets with (I have a member of staff who builds and flies his own aircraft, which is purely awesome). Unfortunately it wasn’t accepted as it was undesirable to set a precedent for quals like that.

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That’s a real shame. You’d think it would be a no brainer to allow qualified pilots to wear something like the UAS preliminary flying badge.

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Quick Q: As a CCF RAF Section, are cadets better off using the RAFAC Cadet Portal and MyRAFAC app, or the Army Cadets Cadet Portal and App?

I did hear that CCf cadets weren’t included with cadet portal as the my brassard would be very different.

they primarily use Westminster which now ports over to bader SMS so it’s limited if they actually use bader for anything but the basics.

Yeah friend of mine has just started at a CCF, effectively restarting the section.
Me being ATC, I’ve only been able to help so much with questions.

Maybe reach out to @kitkat for support /advice

I can link you up in the real world if it helps

@tmmorris may also be able to help :slight_smile:

Indeed :slight_smile:
CCF(RAF) cadets can and should use the myRAFAC app - all the functionality is there. You can see RAFAC events and camps and should be able to sign up for them in the app; and you can use the app as ID (although you may need to prompt your staff to check for the ‘workflow’ in the Volunteer Portal to approve your ID photograph).

BUT… CCF only events (e.g. ones run by your CCF contingent) may well only be created in Westminster, meaning there is no event on BADER (or the app) to sign up for, so you would need to use the Westminster/Army Cadets portal and app for any events like that.

Welcome to the happy CCF world of using both systems!

The data interchange between the two only amounts to personal data (name, address, next of kin, medical etc) not any event management, I’m afraid.

PS also it’s possible (likely?) that your staff won’t have completed all your training records in BADER, so you might appear not to be eligible for some events and camps. If so, speak to them about sorting this out. If they are like me then they will only put some data in when actively requested.

One for @tmmorris
Where do CCF staff of what ever colour do their mandatory training. Is it on Westminster or is it in DG or some other platform such a green version of Learn? Which brings up a second question, if a Blue suit CCF does a RAFAC course, how does it get onto Westminster.

RAF section: BADER
Army and RN sections: Westminster

With some argy-bargy over duplication (e.g. RFI) - every year we seem to have to have another argument about ‘missing training’ which we have already done. Ditto school safeguarding training which is typically far more thorough than RAFAC/Army but we have to make that case repeatedly…

All CCF(RAF) adult staff are on both systems so it can be recorded (manually) on Westminster, typically by the SSI.

Speaking for SATT courses, we send them the certificates to be manually added to Westminster. Can’t see other courses being any different