Proposed Changes to Civilian Committees

863 Squadron all over again.

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No, my chair emailed today to say their role account is being binned (with 2 weeks’ notice - nice one) but their 100 account stays.

Alas I think that is a lack of understanding on either the Comdt’s part or the CivCom passing the message along

For which bit specifically?

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That the 100 account would remain licenced with access to M365 Services (Mail / SharePoint).

It would remain as the remainder of the committee does, purely for access to Volunteer Portal

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ive had no confirmation yet but ive heard the opposite, the 100 goes too , for the purposes of receiving and sending emails

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Oh. That is an issue.

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Inb4* civcoms are not needed because they cant even send official emails anyway so wings will do it instead*

An Update from Andy to Bader POC last week.

" We are in the process of gathering another round of statistics to inform the senior leadership and support any decision they take on the removal of licences from civilian committee accounts at the Sqn level.

If it takes place, it would be on the 28th of April at the earliest and would see the removal of access to licensed applications in Office 365, which includes OneDrive, SharePoint, Email, etc.

The issue effectively stems from permanent staff from the organisation chairing, running and supporting a charity which it is the sole beneficiary of.

The civ com have been briefed about this since January."

If the licenses are withdrawn, we won’t be able to share information as effectively with the committee e.g. asking the treasurer about who has paid subs or hasn’t, requesting support for individuals in financial difficulty, sharing security sensitive information about the building etc. :frowning_face:

Another way to make the CFAV role more difficult!

ps not shooting the messenger! The info is really useful

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CAC: comittees are a financial risk so we’re removing trusteeship

Also CAC: we’re removing the safeguards in place that mitigate comittees’ data security risk

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Didnt the note from the National Chairman say 31st Mar, which im guessing coincides with a financial year end?

I believe it did but I imagine there has been some push back so they are reviewing it.

pushback … to say the least from what im hearing …

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Who/what/where is this information coming from? As an OC i havent had anything at all discussed or sent on this.

I got it via my Sqn Treasurer who got it via the Wing Chair.

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Is it the case that the uniformed part of the ATC has been completely circumvented?

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Currently it’s something that was said at a meeting of region chairs last week.

It doesn’t appear to be fully set in stone based on comment from @Big_J

Why would something that affects the civilian pillar be communicated to the uniform pillar?

We saw exactly the same with the merging of sqn charities last year discussed at the start of the thread.

This does seem to be very much Comdt pushing the charity side to as much arms length as possible.

It does feel to me that licensing for the charity side should not have Public Funded licenses, I don’t know if the cost of 2 licenses per unit can be taken from non public funds. Looking at the ACF they have the Army Cadet Association as a totally separate arm and domain for emails.

The challenge here is timeline and lack of alternative.

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Perhaps “need to know” doesn’t include those “indirectly, but clearly impacted”.

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And Civ Com chairs would never want to break the laws concerning GDPR by e-mailing from a personal e-mail.

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