Will Keir’s forthcoming pay-per-mile charge be refundable under home to duty mileage? Some are saying it will be charged at £0.06/mile. How will it affect MOD and squadron owned vehicles? Not to mention parent power transport. Likely to come on top of fuel duty increase of £0.10 per litre. Cadets will soon be for affluent Home Counties kids.
Why would it be? They don’t currently cover my VED as is, so it would be no change. Id hope for a slight increase in the 25p, but can’t see it happening.
Moving to a per mile per car VED system seems pretty sensible as a whole. There’s people paying £20 doing thousands of miles and some paying hundreds to do only a few miles!
Before EVs I was all for scraping VED and increasing fuel prices instead. EVs have made that tricky however.
They’ve got to work out how to get such a scheme up & running first - & work out ways not to penalise groups who have little choice in using their own cars (rural areas, commuting by car as no suitable public transport, vehicles used by self-employed tradesmen, etc).
Cost of good transported by road would go up? Buses / coaches exempt?
Enforced GPS tracker for every vehicle? (Would a GPS jammer interfere with this? 
), mileage logged as part of MOT?
Probably what needs to happen is that EV now attract vehicle excise duty.
What you do is that you tax a vehicle on both its emissions & weight with reductions gor increased passenger capacity with all vehicles paying at least something.
You could also link it to a cars value but that would be tricky to recalculate each year.
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That’s inevitable - if 2035 is still going to be the cut-off for petrol / diesel cars, then the number of EVs will ramp up - with the income from liquid fuel decreasing accordingly. Lots of money to the Treasury from fuel duty & associated VAT.
Effectively, you have that already. Generally, the large the car / engine = more emissions = higher rate. And of course, the “higher higher” rate, if your vehicle has a list price of more than £40,000 (EV exempt - for the time being!).
Also, it’s a totalitarian system of tracking every vehicle in real time, Putin or Xi would approve. The other problem is working people on a low wage who work shifts who need to go to places of work, plus the elderly, disabled etc who need to go to appointments, undertake shopping, or have mobility issues.
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To add to my previous post, newer cars are actually fitted with a SIM card at the time of construction. This came out in the Ellie Edwards murder case when the murderer Chapman was tracked to Delamere Forrest in an A Class which was burnt to destroy evidence, and he returned home in another car. All the CSE’s had to do was to was analyse the card against Mercedes database.
How about we wait and see if this is even a real policy before we try and claim it back?
So far I note only the most reputable of news sources are even mentioning this idea…
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indeed.
ATM i am winning as an EV owner who is able to charge the vehicle through my PV system = I charge the car for free when the sun is shining, yet i can claim 25p/mile so atm I am “in profit” when a claim is made.
according to this article (from 2022) £5.2billion of tax on fuel alone
ICE cars generate ~£25billion in tax according to that article based on all the taxes associated with ICE (fuel duty, VAT, VED and car tax) which would be lost without some charge (tax) being applied to EVs
but as i have indicated, many EV owners can charge for nothing/very little if they have the solar panels on their home/the right tariffs (if I do use the grid to charge the car it is ~£2 to charge the car)
VED is the only obvious way i can think to tax an EV, but how that is calculated is anyones guess (is it based on the value of the car, the size of the battery, or the motor?)
this is probably the most logical method - MOTs are annual, and they take the odometer reading already. a price per mile/per 1000miles (or banded by 2000/5000/10k or whatever miles) is calculated and then added as a tax to the MOT.
Be careful what you wish for…bet ya RAFAC MTD / F1771 claims post-2035 will knock off an element of the claim based on EVs being cheaper to run.
There is also going to be a huge cost for the additional generating power required post-2035 for the increasing number of EVs. Need to find the link, but the combined utility companies group were forecasting another nuclear power station by 2045. Oh, our existing plans for these always run on time & budget… 
And, let’s buy the reactors from China!
This really is thread drift, but local power infrastructure will need a massive upgrade, never mind sorting out how multi-occupancy properties such as blocks of city apartments will allow everyone to charge their EVs.
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oh absolutely - i know this will be a short term gain, there is no way this will be able to continue.
i am a complete convert, but i will happily beat the PV drum all day long. I know not all properties can have them, and doesn’t help those in tower blocks and flats/apartments etc but I have exported 1,155kWh of electricity this year (1-Jan to 29-Aug) and for those interested that is £140 paid back to me to so far.
That is excess electricity I have not needed*. I recognise that isn’t ground breaking on my own, but if more homes had PV that is a source of kWh which doesn’t require a new power station to be built as roof mounted PVs would be an additional power generation for the grid. roof space is a potential energy source not being used to generate kWh which saves both the grid having to serve my home, and permits me to act as a “power station” for the grid.
to date, since Oct 23 when the PV system was installed, the house has used 4000kWh, and the PV has generated 3110kWh - in 11 months i have been 78% self sufficient, or to put it another way, I have reduced my demand on the grid by 78% - if more homes have PV systems, there would be a lot of “excess” power available which could go to EV charging - that is of course if the EVs are not charged via the PV in the first place.
*ie the battery is fully charged, and the house is running of the PV, thus everything else is excess
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Oh, it would be the way ahead with some sensible Govt direction - we have a similar set-up of panels + large battery. Over the 16 months, it’s yielded about 6400KwH - & for my wife’s hybrid car (personally I think the best compromise), it’s directly saved about £2100 in fuel costs. Another chunk of savings (haven’t really calculated them) by using washing machine / dishwasher overnight on the 7p / Kwh tariff - or when it’s sunny! 
We aren’t quite so “balanced” on yield versus usage (around 40%) , as we are all electric (air heat pump) - but still about £1400 cheaper so far than our previous gas / electric property (comparable size).
The UK is very much behind the EU for energy considerations (although Germany binning nuclear power stations to stay “in” with the Green Party might not be the best idea) - we need to modernise building regulations to reflect best options. For example, for a “standard” house, there should be “X” sq metres of solar panels. Huge roof space potential for new commercial premises, top floor of multi-story car parks, etc. Small, roof-mounted wind generators are equally feasible for commercial units.
If this was mandated, then they would be installed during initial construction (no post-construction scaffolding, etc, needed). Wiring-in would be as part of construction, not extra costs afterwards. Cost of panels / inverters would drop considerably as the demand would increase dramatically & the generated output would benefit the house owner & potentially the grid.
Anyway, if 01 Jan 2035 is “D Day” for new EVs, no further sales of gas guzzlers, on 31 Dec, I will be looking around local car sales rooms - “Hmmm, you can’t sell that 4.0L turbo-injection monster tomorrow - I’ll give ya 10% of list price!”
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But only for cars aged three years or older (four in NI).
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ahh yes - fair point. perhaps there is a “tax” on buying a car under such an age to cover this?
Private purchases maybe avoids this?
You reckon you’ll be able to claim this by then 
there is a loop hole to everything yes…(and did wonder how long it would take before someone mention it)
but there will be ways and means around it - the change in V5 will highlight a new owner to the DVLA who can then issue the tax “pro-rata” against the time left until the next MOT. Likewise the seller can get a refund on the tax not used. this can be done today so not a “new” process.