Why hasnt the sylabus been upgraded we dont use Nimrod etc any more
because it takes 5 years for a change of syllabus publication?
in all my years the aircraft list has always been out of dateā¦
We also donāt use Spitfires or Lancastersā¦
Blimey without the old aircraft the AK would run to a about 4/5 pages.
To update things you need people who care running the show at the top. Now if itās a piece of admin or admin process, updates no problem. Something that matters wrt cadet training manana, unless itās to do with the admin around it. Iām sure they could have several meetings to discuss changes.
But this is the same with some of the exam questions that are wrong and get flagged ocassionally and nothing happens.
We do have Spitfires and a Lancaster in the BBMF. Agreed that we should no longer have the Nimrod.
Nimrod R1 MR2
Jag
Harrier
Jetstream
Bulldog
Firefly
VC10
tristar
TornadoF3
Buccaneer
Phantom
Hunter
Lightning
Andover
Belfast
Vulcan
Victor
Wessex
Whirlwind
Gazelle
RAF Air Rec is sooooooo much easier now
Itās not so much air rec as an aircraft history lesson.
Is it ideal? Probably not.
Is it going to increase their overall knowledge and appreciation of aircraft types and roles by learning about them? Yes.
Could a good instructor maybe go āoff pisteā to link the ālegacyā types into explaining what happened to their capability and what technologies or airframes have replaced/will replace them whilst still covering the syllabus? Again, yes.
There needs to be a greater focus on what is happening now.
The historic links should be included in the notes. But as the bulk of the questions seem to be about āpicturesā and parts, āteachingā roles and anything else is largely superfluous and would depend on the expertise and interest of the member of staff. There arenāt that many aircraft geeks around the Corps that could do it justice.
It would be good if you could extend it into a debate about procurement and replacement practice and policy in the RAF since 1930 and from being a leading light and its position now due to govt policy and selling out since 1945. The pioneers of British aviation must be somersaulting in their graves.
Indeed - but if the resource isnāt centrally provided then āoff pisteā may be required to get the information over (I donāt disagree - merely suggesting a way for āan instructorā to take the material and bring it into the present day - even if it means getting some third party stuff on newer pieces of kit). My impression is things donāt normally change very quickly when centrally provided!
Amen. Sadly we well and truly messed it up half a century ago - not necessarily the militaryās fault but death of the civilian industry presided over by BOAC and their love of all things Boeing. Post Typhoon and Hawk itās well possible our major aircraft manufacturing as a āBritishā business will well and truly be gone (seeing as AgustaWestland have now gone thoroughly Italian!).
It depends on where the info is and how complete it is.
One thing I hate at work is the word āresearchā when doing a project as it means invariably spending hours on the internet with little or no progress.
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Donāt forget military aircraft systems, which involves learning about Sidewinder, Skyflash, Alarm, Maverick, Harpoon and Stingray (the last two are at least still in British service, if not RAF).
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Last term I warned OC TEST to expect lower syllabus pass rates for my unit, as I am not prepared to invest valuable time in teaching the cadets out of date information. They have to lie to pass the Ultilearn examā¦
I donāt understand why they had to LIE to pass the exam? Surely if you teach the syllabus they pass the exam. Not everything taught in school is the most up to date, but you teach the syllabus, just do the same with the cadet exams.
For example if the syllabus requires to you say the RAF operates Jaguar or Harrierā¦ when you know perfectly well they donātā¦
So just tell them the RAF used to operate the aircraft, maybe add in a little about the new aircraft but as long as they have the knowledge to pass the exam then they should pass. A lot of the subjects are out of date, but thatās the syllabus
Thatās treating the symptom, not the causeā¦
Bring them all up to date.
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The problems with updates potentially stems from originally devolving responsibility to scattered SMEs (some IIRC from the volunteer community), who if no longer around means no one picking it up, when we went to ultilearn.
Heard that a new syllabus is to be introduced next year across every classification. Roadshows are being planned around Regions to give an overview idc.
Interesting, Iāve just asked our training officer this and he wasnāt aware of it.