- Highly doubt they were. Most likely cadet camp BS.
- Escorting staff arent the same as the organising staff.
- If this did happen, it is now incubent for you to report this immediatly to the chain of command.
I dunno, my wing commander said the same to me when I got my team back from Nijmegen. One of the CWOs having had a bit too much to drink and committed a bit of a SNAFU.
I rang them immediately on return to the UK to get ahead of the news and make sure the truth reached them before the rumours, and that was his response.
A few carefully drafted apology emails later to the BMC staff and nothing was ever said about it again.
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I hear this said many times alluding to a code of secrecy & youâre not meant to snitch when the rules are broken.
What it actually means is donât gossip about what happened on camp, who was seen walking out with who, what things that were said by someone etc.
If something serious happens report it to those in charge, let them deal with it & report it & donât comment on it to people who werenât there.
So with the IACE one it could well be that they inadvertently attending an event that alcohol was present, one cadet was handed a glass by a waiter by accident, escorting staff spotted it, intervened, managed the cadets & log the incident with no further action needed.
It just stops the rumour mill from running rampant so that a single cadet smuggling vodka onto camp in coke bottles is not portrayed as 50 cadets having a bender where a beer keg was thrown at a Wg Cdr from a roof & the police where called after someone stole & crashed a tank.
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We were at the same camp!.. 
Seconded.
The Sainsburyâs low alcohol cider Iâd happily put in my top ten ciders
According to âthe bookâ a loyal toast can be made with either port, madeira or waterâŚppl prefer port as it feels âproperâ but all are âacceptableâ
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We had our dining-in night at the weekend.
Everyone had a lovely time, especially the staff, guests and parents.
But youâll have to take my word for it though, because not a single photo of it exists!!!
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âŚoh I bet they do
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Hiya,
If it helps at all, last week we had our first âdryâ Sqn Dinner.
The venue were ok with it, if not a little disappointed (we have had venues turn us down based on alcohol sales being a big money maker for them)
Now im not sure if it was the no alcohol, economic climate, apathy or what, but numbers attending were down on past dinners.
Pre-drinks were all non alcoholic, the Loyal Toast , we still used decantors, but used Vimto instead, water on the table not wine, and then post non alcoholic drinks in the bar afterwards.
No one i spoke to, who attended, said that not drinking for 3 or 4 hours detracted from the event. We did have people who refused to go since they couldnt have a drink, but it was their loss.
The night was still brilliant, food was great, we celebrated our sqn and cadets achievements, had several toasts and all went home happy.
So from my point of view, the event was as success, the haters didnt come and missed out, it may have effected take up of places, but other than that was brilliant
C
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Out of interest, was this Sqn CFAV, Wing CFAV that were invited, parents, or other guests? Intrigued to know.
Glad you had a successful night!
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It would be true to say a mixture. No Wing CFAV, but Sqn staff, Civcom, and i would say parents but that was harder to judge. I made the assumption that numbers were down due to parents not liking the idea.
And thanks it was an amazing night, achieving what it was meant to achieve, celebrating our successes
C
Imagine your parents refusing to come celebrate your achievements due to there being no alcoholâŚ
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I do wonder how the lunch at the House of Lords was received as I bet we could not enforce a drinking ban on the Lords !
From last weeks news letter.
âThe medal was presented by The Rt Hon The Lord Lingfield, with FS Able and the other finalists enjoying a lunch and tour of the House of Lords.â
i know it does seem fickle
C
I reckon if you wanted to get a quick turnround in the order ⌠if Cadets refused to go to high profile presentations (Dignatories / press present) because they believed alcohol would be servedâŚ
âŚI reckon it would be about a week before orders came down from on high that the policy was being âre thoughtââŚ
Iâm actually okay for their to be a variance in policy for top level high profile events with dignitaries.
HQ should be able to grant dispensations as rare exceptions to the general rule.
Such affairs are likely to be highly organised affairs with good general control & importantly not likly to descend into general debauchery.
So if the wine was being served at lunch then itâs not an issue as not really a problem.& not really something we should have a problem with particularly as the cadets in question are likly to be at the more professional end rather than what happens at a general squadron dinner.
I know some people will say itâs double standards & that everyone should be the same But thatâs not really arguable when the controls & personnel are different at every level.
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Not sure where else to put this
TL:DR someone aged 14 will never be old enough to legally buy tobacco as the age requirement will always be a year older than their age throughout their lifetime
BBC News - Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Rishi Sunak
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The only thing that I heard in that speech I could get behind
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Did you notice that after announcing a long term policy to train new doctors, he then segways into another policy to reduce demand now, and itâs this? This wonât make any difference to NHS demand now.
I feel itâs a great idea on paper but it doesnât really do anything in practise.
How do under 18s currently get access to cigarettes? Fake ID, friends, dodgy cashiers. This wonât stop that.
Also number of smokers is decreasing (vaping going up though). This policy just seems like an easy way to get votes without actually doing anything.
The vaping thing is important - they are supposed to be a cessation tool, but I frequently see kids who have started using them without ever having smoked.
The worrying thing is that whilst they would appear to be âless badâ in terms of no Tar etc, the disposable ones are pleasing flavours with higher nicotine content than a cigarette. Incredibly addictive.
If legislation comes in to make them harder to obtain & limit the nicotine concentration of the disposables, it will be step in the right direction. Even banning disposables altogether, as the e-waste generated is shocking.
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