yes the Cadet Forces kept it going!
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The shooting camp that was on that year was the last cadet activity to fire it, literally finished shooting and they were sent to Donnington after that.
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Happened recently in Wales, sear wasn’t correctly fitted following armoury work.
Reported, investigated and actions taken.
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If this is already happening, then maybe there will be an appetite for cadets to fire unmodified service rifles. I remember being issued an M16A2 by the National Guard that had a metal attachment to prevent the selector switch from being moved to the auto position. It came off very easily (almost accidentally!)
Or we can just rely on our training and processes, we already run 1 safety supervisor to 2 firers
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When did LSW go out of service with Army cadets?
We (CCF) had 3 delivered to our armoury as the CTT decided that was a better idea than centralising them; we got staff trained, did a staff only shoot to familiarise, then just as we were about to roll out to cadets, they were withdrawn again. But I can’t remember when - could have been 2018 as well?
It was an MOD wide withdrawal so would have been the same time.
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I thought Gaz would have known better than to write excrement like that. But then it is the Torygraph so maybe that influenced it.
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It comes as part of a long-running row within the Ministry of Defence over diversity policies that have led the Defence Secretary to intervene amid fears about combat effectiveness.
That’s just not true. It’s not part of the same row at all. It’s us as a youth organisation trying to make things more gender-neutral where possible. It’s got nothing to do with the wider MODs policy’s…
Well, it’s been a dictionary term for an awfully long time & no-one has complained.
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Depends whether the initiative is TK’s or whether it’s come down from AOC 22 Group
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With respect, what you mean is “No one I know of has complained”. You don’t know how many people it impacts across the organisation, and waiting until someone has to complain is doing a disservice to us and denies us being proactive in avoiding the problem in the first place.
It is a simple enough, tiny, terminology change that could help a young person (or adult actually) feel like they’re seen by the organisation. It costs us nothing, but could mean a huge amount to them so it’s hardly disproportionate to the effort required. Words matter, and by using an outdated term when there is no need to, just because “no one has ever complained” means we’ll be stuck like it forever. It might be that those it directly impacted didn’t feel they could complain, or didn’t want to be accused of causing a fuss, or didn’t want to experience repercussions for speaking out. By us doing it proactively we are setting a good example around inclusivity.
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At work I am seeing more language around “Un-crewed Aerial Vehicles” etc…
I don’t mind the language change, it’ll take some getting used to, but it is the direction of travel so may as well get on board early!
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Does sound likes it being written with a chip on the shoulder.
If the naming of something is ones biggest concern then they need to take a long look in the mirror at whats important in life and also find a hobby
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So when cadets transition to the armed forces and they are asked what the 4 Marksmanship principles are - and they just sit there blank expressioned as we have decided to call them the 4 ??? principles?
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I think that’s a ridiculous line of argument for several reasons:
- it’s none of our concern, we’re not the armed forces.
- they take people off the street with no LFMT experience at all, nearly all of whom will all have no knowledge of those principles.
- if they are well taught principles the naming won’t mean they don’t know what they are
- you can change the wording to sharpshooting and it will be fine.
Next.
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We’ve only changed the badge names, the SASC have the say about other terms like marksmanship principles etc.
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Yes, literally. The EFR noted that a spring had broken, and that was the end of it.
Who said anything about changing the name of the marksmanship principles? We’ve changed the names of the badges, not the principles.
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