Is now available on Sharepoint HERE
Since this is a more appropriate place, the changes doc is not protectively marked, and I am feeling helpful, here is a summary of the main changes:
Rifle:
[ul]
[li]Tap forward now specified for NSPs[/li]
[li]Functions test no longer has to be done in the prone position[/li]
[li]Added the updated rifle lesson 3[/li]
[li]Adopting the prone position is taught in rifle lesson 5[/li]
[li]Firing from other positions is now rifle lesson 8[/li]
[li]The standing position is now taught as part of firing from other positions[/li]
[li]Use of cover now part of rifle lesson 8[/li]
[li]Mechanism of the Weapon, Immediate Action and Stoppages is now rifle lesson 9[/li]
[li]Checking the safety catch is no longer required as part of the IA drill.[/li]
[li]New rifle lesson 12 - Firing at Crossing and Multiple Targets[/li]
[li]Added a specific lesson on boresighting the rifle with iron sight[/li]
[li]Added a specific lesson on zeroing the rifle with iron sight[/li]
[li]Added a lesson on the L41A1 sub calibre adapter[/li]
[/ul]
LSW:
[ul]
[li]NSPs now taught and carried out standing[/li]
[li]Stripping and assembling is now LSW lesson 2[/li]
[li]New LSW lesson 4 - Alteration Of Sights, Selection and use of Firing Positions[/li]
[/ul]
WHTs:
[ul]
[li]Weapon Handling Tests are now part of Pam 5-C[/li]
[li]Loading is now done in the standing position[/li]
[li]The time limit for magazine filling has been removed.[/li]
[/ul]
Whilst it is good that the IA is now brought into line with the L85 drill, so that the weapons now appear to be treated the same and not cadetised. It would appear as it is written in the PAM that clearing an obstruction, loose magazine and changing a magazine are all done with the safety catch at fire. Is this correct? My understanding is that on the L85 on realising that there is an obstruction etc. that the safety was set to S before dealing with it.
Correct.
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My understanding is that on the L85 on realising that there is an obstruction etc. that the safety was set to S before dealing with it.[/quote]
I can’t comment on that as I don’t have access to Pam 5.
Just having a flick through it now. Lots of little changes, one in particular is in the WHT the command after the “make safe” is no longer “300”, it is “ready”. About time!
Watching cadets trying to set their 200m sight to 300m was always amusing!
I’m actually a bit dissapointed about that.
It was always a good indicator for me to see which of the instructors on my course were not teaching properly when a cadet had no idea what to do on being ordered a range.
^^^ seconded
Correct.
[quote]
My understanding is that on the L85 on realising that there is an obstruction etc. that the safety was set to S before dealing with it.[/quote]
I can’t comment on that as I don’t have access to Pam 5.[/quote]
When last I did L85 training about 4 years ago, there was no requirement to keep applying the safety catch for stoppage drills. The only time the safety is applied is if the gas plug us being changed from ‘N’ to ‘E’, confirmed in my copy of AP3242B.
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When last I did L85 training about 4 years ago, there was no requirement to keep applying the safety catch for stoppage drills. The only time the safety is applied is if the gas plug us being changed from ‘N’ to ‘E’, confirmed in my copy of AP3242B.[/quote]
That’s why it’s gone - parity with the L85A2. I believe the gas stoppage for the L85A2 went out of the pam some time ago though.
I’m actually a bit dissapointed about that.
It was always a good indicator for me to see which of the instructors on my course were not teaching properly when a cadet had no idea what to to do on being ordered a range.[/quote]Thirded.
now three weeks after the form has appeared on Sharepoint:
has anyone recieved formal notification of the changed PAM?
I just so happened ot bump into my local SATT member the next evening at Sqn who is the Dep.oc for our SATT. he brought up the topic with me and indicated was going to read through the changes before sending it out to his team and Wings that week…
…three weeks later i’m still to see a memo/mail indicating the revised PAM/changes
haven’t heard anything in C&E
Remember that it is not your CoC’s responsibility to spoon feed you the new Pam. All the important pams have some variation of this sentence in them:
Not the content perhaps, but it should be considered a duty of the CoC to promulgate the EXISTENCE of any important change to policy documents to all relevant personnel, rather than rely on hearsay or chance.
I agree, considering some units struggle with sharepoint it can take them weeks before they find out. It’s only because i have a good knowledge of sharepoint that i know the new docs are on there. But still no contact from Wing or Region regarding existence. I knew that a new Pam was being published back in May on my SAAI course, we still had to know what was in the old but made aware of the changes coming soon.
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Not the content perhaps, but it should be considered a duty of the CoC to promulgate the EXISTENCE of any important change to policy documents to all relevant personnel, rather than rely on hearsay or chance.[/quote]
^^ THIS!!
no one formally or otherwise as mentioned the new PAM to me other than a chance visit by our local SATT member to Sqn the day after it appeared.
my point being if i wasnt a member here i certainly wouldn’t know about any changes as no one as even mentioned them to me. i use BADER and can pilot Sharepoint but dont go searching “on the off chance” things have changed.
i know of at least one, if not two WIs i work with closely who have only a minor grasp on how to use Sharepoint and doubt they “log in” to any Bader format more than once a month and cannot imagine them searching round “on the off chance”
I would like to see a memo indicating a new PAM exisits and can be found at either Wing wide or to individual WIs/SAAIs identified by Wng Shooting Officer.
It seems to me that it is exactly the sort of thing that should have been included in the October CROs issued today - certainly more relevant to most people than a change of command of Sussex Wing.
I for one sit down and read the whole of ACP5 before every parade night, just in case anything’s changed.
As Incy says, the CoC really should promulgate the fact that something’s changed at the very least. If it’s worth changing the document, then it’s worth actually telling people about!
Order No 24 refers to ACP20B, i though this no longer existed. SO glad HQAC are up to date with the publications they release!!!