Multi Position Shooting

this is interesting as I understood that the reason lessons 8 and 9 swapped was to make it mandatory prior to WHT to bring the ATC and ACF “into line” as the ACF taught (what was) lesson 9 as part of their “star” system, yet ATC could test after (what was) lesson 8…thus there was inconsistency between a ATC WHT’d Cadet and ACF WHT’d Cadet

based on Talon’s post though seem this is [I]not[/I] the case and begs the question why swap lessons 8 and 9 and bring alternative positions into mandatory teaching??

[quote=“steve679” post=15379]
based on Talon’s post though seem this is [I]not[/I] the case and begs the question why swap lessons 8 and 9 and bring alternative positions into mandatory teaching??[/quote]

The lesson is taught however not before the cadet takes the WHT. The intention is that this will become a 1 star lesson (the 1 star test being a WHT), it just isn’t yet.

But I digress…

I really don’t get this, the Pam is produced by the army, it states very clearly that lessons 1-9 must be taught before the cadet can take a wht,

It doesn’t differentiate between what colour the uniform we wear, what cap badge what region district or county or what service

It’s a simple statement there is no grey area…

[quote=“redowling”]The problem being, we don’t have a syllabus. We have a load of competitions designed to be fired from the prone position (air rifle excepted).

Hence we can’t shoot until we have a syllabus (apparently).

Why we can’t just take some practices from the AOSP Stage 1-3, which are designed to be progressive, I have no idea.[/quote]

That’s exactly the problem, and yes we agree with the idea of using AOSP practices. Unfortunately, it’s not as simple as dragging out the relevant practices from AOSP. If we simply allow the use of AOSP as a syllabus then there’s a risk that unauthorised practices will be fired, or if we don’t mandate the lesson sequence is followed in order, that cadets will end up firing an advanced shoot from the kneeling position before they have learned to group correctly from the prone position. That’s very likely to be unsafe.

We know it does’t make it any easier on the ground, but we’re doing what we can to get the issues surrounding multi-positional shooting addressed as quickly as we can.

We understand that this is being looked at.

So why not just issue a policy document stating the progression required? Indeed IIRC doesn’t the TG5 letter already state this?

Why are some regions/wings allowed to run with the policy and others aren’t? To me this makes a mockery of ‘standardising’ ACO shooting.