Legal Powers

Does anyone know exactly what legal powers the RAFVR(T) officers has over regular serving members of HM Forces, I.e can they order an SAC whilst on duty.

No specific reason for the question just curious.

Queens regs have been released on RAF website. Have a look on there.

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Thanks had a look but still doesn’t really provide any clarity, you would think it would be pretty clear!

Pass some of that popcorn here, Prune…

oooooooooooooooooooh.

Oh no she didn’t.

As always with these things… Why are they asking? I’d love to know the back-story.

Salted or sweet?

No specific reason for asking or any skullduggery it’s just occurred to me that if you hold the Queens Commission you must hold the legal powers also or is there a rule that overrides it.

[quote=“RearAdmiralScrinson” post=19544]oooooooooooooooooooh.

Oh no she didn’t.[/quote]

Cadet Force Adult Volunteers that are commissioned into the Training branch of the RAFVR, for service with the Air Cadet Organisation (or ACF Officers commissioned into List B of the Army Reserve) do not have direct command authority over Officers of lower rank, or over Other Ranks, in either the regular forces or the active reserves.

That specific authority is not delegated to them, because they do not have an operational role.

However, since they are commissioned Officers holding rank (including acting rank) appropriate to the positions of responsibility they hold, their reasonable requests and instructions would normally be courteously accommodated in a manner equivalent to that shown in response to having received an order.

Bear in mind that the low substantive rank held by a commissioned CFAV reflects their relative lack of authority outside the organisation they are serving with. This in no way reduces the significance of the Queen’s Commission itself (or the fundamental powers and responsibilities associated with it) but is a practical arrangement based upon requirements.

I’m also intrigued to know whether the OP is posting about a hypothetical or real-world situation

wilf_san

ps I was unaware that QRs were now published on the open internet- I’ve only got time for a quick check just now, but I’ll be very interested to see if they’re written correctly when referring to the Reserve Air Forces: does anyone have a direct link to this content?

Thanks for the reply if you google QRs it will take you straight to the Air Force website where it’s available on PDF

http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/qrs.cfm

Four parts.

No powers beyond the right to send a Memo With Attitude to their boss - not even if they are working for you as a Service Instructor or similar. A VR(T) may not therefore charge an Airman under any circumstances.

However, you would have the right to remove them from a cadet activity, though this is not something covered by the Armed Force Act or the old Air Force Act.

Come on! Spill! We want juicy Gossip!

Let me guess, Sheep130 was on camp last week, and a VRT tried it on?..

That or the team putting the post DYER implementation is getting lazy! :wink:

Both bad news if either is the case - I mean no-one sets up a new account just to ask a question like that… (IMO)

Either that or he did something…‘outside the rules’…with cadets which warranted a VR(T) getting involved?

Nothing of the sort Gunner I’m an ex cadet, but been asked to take over as an ACLO which I’m more than happy to do it is reference to overhearing a conversation in a crew room 2 months ago between the staff, I did put in my own research but just wanted to know where I stand in the future.

Bit cheeky to use your knowledge to avoid having to do any further digging but it seems to have paid off!

Surely as RAF you should have a better idea of Air Force Law?

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