Is it really that bad?

If it was on a closed FB I would having a direct chat with whoever made it public and removing them from the group. AFAIC closed means private and for that group only and not for onward transmission.
We have a closed FB and it is for staff, cadets, CWC and parents, as soon as one leaves or hasn’t been around for a few weeks, they are removed. Non squadron members have asked for access and not liked it when told no.

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It is still very much available publicly at the original locations.

here you go RAS:

seems its not been taken down

who is to say the twitter poster and the FB poster and the photographer are not the same person??

If i took photos of an event and posted to the closed FB page i might also post on the Twitter account

The person taking the photos 99% of the time is the person also sharing them. given the situation it would seem the poster sharing them has removed themself from the organisation…
(looking at the links above, it would seem the individual posted this to a personal account, which was retweeted by the Sqn account…which could be the same CFAV )

Would they have been any less elated if he’d taken off the jumper first?

I saw the pic a few days ago and I must say I’ve slept every night since :roll_eyes:

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He wouldn’t have been able to show off his wings though, would he?

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the wings were being shown off by being held up…he could have been in No5s and still show off the badge with the same pose…

It is almost as if you’ve never bothered to look at the photo :smiley:

Reading this again the question comes to my mind, do we really need to social media to publicise things?
If it’s squadron people will find out in due course. Does everyone else need to know?
It seems to cause lots and lots of problems in all areas, not via the original entry, but the entry getting sent to others, who then because they have no life outside the ATC (using the ATC as the example) like to make something of it if they can.
As I said not so very long ago photographs took time and would be selected for publicity, but now people take photos and videos with gay abandon and put them all over social media as they get caught up in the pretend excitement of the moment.

i know what you are saying…there should be perhaps a better self filter of does “everything” need to go on SM.

certainly our Wing has indicated “Facebook live” is a must not given the potential of something occuring which is not kosher occurred which “once seen/heard cannot be unseen/heard”

it would take away from the “capturing the moment” element - the photo in question is a good example. it is nice to see “action shots” of Cadets doing what they should have been for the last four years it is just unfortunate in this example the photo wasn’t perfect and has caused a storm of reaction.

no one is dismissing the CFAV for sharing a good news story, it is perhaps a case of being caught up in the moment and forgetting that filter…

We put quite a lot of stuff up on social media as, for us, it replaces the tired old media routes of the Air Cadet magazine, RAF news and the local rag.

For one thing It allows us to retain editorial control, so we know what we publish is accurate. The local rag used to reprint our submissions pretty much verbatim but recently hired a journalist whose role seems to be to inject lies into articles, so I stopped feeding them stories. RAF News isn’t ready by our target audience and the Air Cadet Magazine cannot stop themselves from adding a cheesy headline and aren’t interested in stories north or the border.

I don’t buy into the media frenzy or the rush to get things published as soon as they have happened. I find it is much better to work on the photos (tune, crop, select, edit, censor) and post them on Facebook with an article free from the usual cliches. If it is worth submitting to another format then we will do so.

The method hasn’t really changed, just the platform.

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We’ve never bothered with anything other than local papers, we have a closed FB for internal things. Tried ACN never got in and as said RAFN not really our target audience.

When on local events we seem to have a couple of town FB page admins who put all manner of nonsense up without asking people. They’ve come unstuck a few times, but still do it!!

I personally like to chop photos around to keep them appropriate to us and not advertise everyone else.

The problem being that some adults fail to grasp reality and forget that the air cadets is a youth organisation and not the RAF. Wheras many adults work damned hard tand put the cadets first, here are some who would never cut it in the RAF so they over compensate by jouning the air cadets for self gratification and enjoy beasting and bullying cadets. Those sort of people do not belong in any youth organisation.

What are you replying too, exactly? The OP whose not been seen for over 5 years? Or one of the last two posts. One of which is from someone who sadly passed away, and the other from someone who is thankfully banned.

You seem to have resurrected a 7-year-old thread to grind an axe?

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14 years in and ive never seen this…

I think you are either spouting nonsence or have experience if the very smallest minority.

Everyone ive met across 2 wings has the cadet experience at the heart of what they do.

I saw it once. It was very short-lived, and the offending NCO left very shortly afterwards.

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Again minority.

The original statement indicates its a culture

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The exception proves the rule.

How would you know they didn’t let you in while the Safeguarding team sorted through your past?

I’ve yet to witness this or hear anything of the sort. Back in the mid 90’s when I was a cadet, it was just the norm that WO’s actively encouraged cadets to shave, have a hair cut and make sure they had a wash for the next parade night. Nowadays, none of that happens as it’s not the thing we do. We advise on hair cuts but we cant make them.

And Squiggle, why do you not answer queries when I’ve asked about your Cadet career and wanting to have been a staff member. It’s a mind-melter for me when I know nothing about you but you are coming out with all these claims but not explaining yourself.