IR Weapons (non-contact non-kinetic training simulators)

Our CCF has recently procured a number of IR weapons (not laser), and they have offered to loan them to us.

is there any way we can use them? I see Nationally we have used VR weapons at events like Fairford, and I don’t think there is much difference in there use.

IR weapons? Like heat seeking missiles? I’m going to go with those not being allowed? Or you mean direct energy weapons? Think those will be a no to…. :laughing:

Going to need to expand on exactly what they have and what you want to do!

These are the rifles. I don’t know there exact names, but it was made clear they weren’t laser tag weapons.

I have some used by a CCF RN section & I know the CCF hav access to some very Gucci stuff (like paintball versions of the l98 so you can run a practise with it similar to air rifle & do some live fire & manouver)

Not sure how this translate across & I suspect that as the ATC part of the air cadets are unfamiliar it’s likely to be a no until someone figures how to use them.

@bob1

Might be a person to chat too….

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What you’ve done wrong here is to use the word ‘weapon’…

This is a non-contact non-kinetic training simulation…

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I’m slightly concerned at the amount of current that might be going through that fully coiled extension lead…

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Escalate via chain of command. But may be interesting to look at.

What are available brands for this sort of thing and the VR activities seen at Syerston?

They look like the training kit available at Jersey Camp on the Isle of Wight. I’ve used them on a camp there - all approved by RAFAC CoC. They’re great kit, both for training and fun. I was surprised that we were allowed to use them.

Yeah, this is pretty bad practise. I do wonder what the charging rate of these is. If it’s under 250W, then this is technically the max for a single circuit having 12 on there. But not with a coiled up extension lead.

I would assume they’re a lot less than 250W, so probably fine. Just looks bad.

Do you know what it’s called?

It also looks like some sort of circuit breaker on the left wall.

Afraid not. I remember that they were made in the UK but can’t remember the manufacturer.

There’s also a piece of kit called Mantis which can ‘instrument’ almost anything for marksmanship training: a DP rifle, airsoft replica, even a broom handle (ok maybe not a broom handle)

Mantis is used by a UK company called Cervus to add marksmanship feedback for blank and even dry training. Almost a mini DCCT. Has been tested by the Army.

Not as physical as the IR system above but it’s the sort of thing I’d like to see us adopt.

Link to Cervus’ system:

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