they should change material while they’re at it bc they are rlly itchy
You can wear anywhere between 10 and 20 now but 15 on ceremonial parades
Being very old, I remember when the required colour for tights was ‘peuter’, a kind of silvery grey/blue - it was impossible to get hold of commercially and could only be got through the RAF - one of our staff would have to go up to WHQ every month to get a bag full of tights.
Fabulous waste of staff time.
But yes, nude/natural would be, and (imv) look, much better than black.
Let cadet DI’s carry a bleeding pace stick. This would bring us in line with the ACF & SCC who already allow cadets to carry them. What is the point of training a cadet to be a DI if you don’t allow them to use the tool of the DI???
As with the regular RAF uniform.
If you’re dead set on staying light blue, either drastically improve the quality of materials and add ribbons to shirts and improve the RAF Officer rank slides (think tropical mess dress).
Or, go the way of police uniforms (in the sense of it being more like activewear and therefore practical even if you need to nip on the range/heave and dump office furniture).
Failing that, probably just go MTP (but with the buttoned shirt) and make it navy blue with the RAF ensign on the left arm and Royal Air Force above the right breast pocket.
For RAFAC, largely follow suit.
that rlly doesn’t help the lack of stock situation tho bc they only stock 15d anyway
I’ve rarely actually seen a pace-stick be used for its correct purpose by a CFAV, what makes you think a cadet will use it for that purpose? It’s more of a tool to “show” who you are……
That’s true on a parade, but for a drill nut NCO, a pace stick on the Sqn drill square would be a brilliant Aide to Drill
Your right… I’ve never been able to demonstrate a correctly sized pace before to a new cadet
I use it for its required purpose
seconded - or at least this is the times i have seen them “used”.
when not in position in the office (or the WOs boot of the car) I have only seen Pace sticks used for teaching (drill) lessons with the exception of Wing parades where the WWO and team use them as badges of office…
I’m almost completely with you, sir, but why navy blue? We wear blue-grey! I’d ask the same of whomever designed the GPJ.
This is very fair.
Blacks, greys, and whites (probably not on the trousers) would work fine too. Overseas police forces in Europe make various shades of blue work very well.
The crab fat just looks a bit too “meh” for me. Rather drab.
My understanding is that the ‘crab fat’ nickname comes from an earlier uniform, lighter in colour, that was originally intended for the Imperial Russian Cavalry (but was repurposed after the October Revolution).
http://www.britairforce.com/imagepages/raf_uniform_1918_a.htm
“Did I ever tell you about the time I designed a uniform for tank crewmen? It was green leather, had red stripes, and sort of, uh, a row of brass buttons down across here, and topped off by a gold football helmet.
The Army rejected it, of course. Goddamn, it was beautiful!”
General George S Patton
is this the kind of question we could put forward to an AI bot?
one of those AI image generators…create a new uniform for the RAF Air Cadets???
Better than mine:
- Jacket:
- A fitted, single-breasted jacket made of a durable and breathable fabric in the RAF blue color.
- The jacket features a high collar with a single row of silver or gold buttons down the front.
- On the shoulders, there are epaulets with the RAF Air Cadets emblem embroidered in full color.
- The jacket has functional pockets and includes a small pocket on the left chest with the cadet’s rank insignia.
- Shirt:
- A crisp, long-sleeved white shirt made of a lightweight and comfortable fabric.
- The shirt has a button-down collar and buttoned cuffs.
- There is an RAF Air Cadets emblem embroidered in full color on the left chest.
- Trousers/Skirt:
- For male cadets, tailored trousers in a matching RAF blue color.
- For female cadets, a knee-length skirt in the same RAF blue color or optional tailored trousers.
- Both options should be comfortable, practical, and allow for ease of movement.
- Footwear:
- Black leather shoes or boots that are appropriate for marching and outdoor activities.
- Headgear:
- A peaked cap with the RAF Air Cadets emblem embroidered in full color on the front.
- The cap should have a black or dark blue visor and a black or dark blue band.
- Accessories:
- A black or dark blue belt with a simple, functional buckle.
- Rank insignia, badges, and patches denoting achievements or qualifications earned by the cadet should be displayed on the appropriate areas of the uniform.
well the top photo pleases those who like the idea of Number1s for all
the second isn’t the worse idea i have seen - the colour needs addressing but at least it looks smart unlike the star trek attempt we saw of the recent uniform proposal!
I’d make all the rank slides velcro. The Ukrainians do it, and it’s brilliantly useful when they need to transfer their rank slides to non-standard uniforms or other apparel not specifically designed to hold rank slides.