The ACO already do falling plate shoots. Do keep up.[/quote]
That sounds interesting, where could I find out more?
Back on topic and don’t make it personal please.
The ACO already do falling plate shoots. Do keep up.[/quote]
That sounds interesting, where could I find out more?[/quote]
ACTO47, p47-12, para 85. It’s part of a shooting competition.
My old Squadron used to do a lot of arms drill in public. My former CO ignored the directive to return our .303s completely until the RAF gave up asking and said we could keep them in the arms cabinet as long as they were further deactivated. (Completely unnecessary, they were so deactivated the first time round it would be easier to machine a new one from scratch than fix it.)
The public lapped it up. We used to mount a guard at the town war memorial in November. No bayonets, just simple drills, rest on your arms reversed and all that. No need for aggression with that one.
Anyway, back on topic. If the GoPro was mounted on a helmet/head. It would probably be in accordance with ACP50, purely because no cadet involvement would show. In fact, it would be pretty poor footage all round. Steady shot of the targets, little shakes when the rifle goes off, maybe some plumes of dirt when the bullet strikes the sand. Pretty dull all round I would have thought. Certainly not worth bragging about.
However, mounted off the right hand side of the foresight block and looking back towards the firer, the wide angle of the GoPro could get a good shot of the firer, the working parts, the ejecting rounds and the supervisor standing at the back
It needn’t be mounted to the rifle: I wouldn’t recommend it and it may affect the balance. Sit it on a small tripod to the side of the barrel and you can get a similar shot.
I have some good GoPro footage of the firing point on our 15m tube range. Lots of supervisors in shot
However, mounted off the right hand side of the foresight block and looking back towards the firer, the wide angle of the GoPro could get a good shot of the firer, the working parts, the ejecting rounds and the supervisor standing at the back
It needn’t be mounted to the rifle: I wouldn’t recommend it and it may affect the balance. Sit it on a small tripod to the side of the barrel and you can get a similar shot.
I have some good GoPro footage of the firing point on our 15m tube range. Lots of supervisors in shot :)[/quote]
That sounds like a much better idea. And wouldn’t necessitate the cost of a GoPro either. You could use any small video camera.
But why use any small video camera when you could use a GoPro?
But why use any small video camera when you could use a GoPro?[/quote]
The same reason my new wallet is made out of sniper tape…
If we banned slapping your weapon hard until your arms and palms ached life would be very dull indeed.
As a cadet I remember using an L85 to engage falling plate targets on a rapid fire practice. Not to mention blank-firing flight attacks and run-and-shoots…
Seems fairly ‘combat shooting’ to me.
[quote=“MattB” post=18531]As a cadet I remember using an L85 to engage falling plate targets on a rapid fire practice. Not to mention blank-firing flight attacks and run-and-shoots…
Seems fairly ‘combat shooting’ to me.[/quote]
Falling plates has been a part of our wing shooting competition for years though it has been a couple of years since we managed to run the competition: Run from 200m, prone, load, engage.
If we want to be picky: consider rapid and snap practices, as defined in Pam5C/ACP19, to be “combat shooting”.
[quote=“incubus” post=18532][quote=“MattB” post=18531]As a cadet I remember using an L85 to engage falling plate targets on a rapid fire practice. Not to mention blank-firing flight attacks and run-and-shoots…
Seems fairly ‘combat shooting’ to me.[/quote]
Falling plates has been a part of our wing shooting competition for years though it has been a couple of years since we managed to run the competition: Run from 200m, prone, load, engage.
If we want to be picky: consider rapid and snap practices, as defined in Pam5C/ACP19, to be “combat shooting”.[/quote]
We used to do Volley Fire yonks ago. Combat shooting, Zulu Style.
Ok I will bite.
Wow, you can do falling plates. My how “ally” are you!
If you want specifics on combat shooting a few might be:
Night Shoots
Overhead GPMGs
LLM shoots
IBSRs and Field Firing.
CBRN shoots
CQB shoots
Transition shoots
Use of other arms and pyros
List goes on.
Thats not me trying to give it the “big I am”. I love shooting. I am glad the ACO do it. And should do more of it.
End of the day, your bottom of the food chain. Lets not get ideas above your station.
Jeez the only thing worse than some Cadet staffs attitudes is the damn UOTC.
Slack day in the Sanitary Corps? Get back in the corner - you’re due for watering soon…
[quote=“RearAdmiralLargeOne”]Wow, you can do falling plates. My how “ally” are you!
If you want specifics on combat shooting a few might be:
Night Shoots
Overhead GPMGs
LLM shoots
IBSRs and Field Firing.
CBRN shoots
CQB shoots
Transition shoots
Use of other arms and pyros
List goes on.
Thats not me trying to give it the “big I am”. I love shooting. I am glad the ACO do it. And should do more of it.
End of the day, your bottom of the food chain. Lets not get ideas above your station.
Jeez the only thing worse than some Cadet staffs attitudes is the damn UOTC [/quote]
Firstly, IBSR IS a transition shoot (Stage IV (Transition to Field Firing) - look it up in the AOSP) and as firing in other positions has been sanctioned, this could become reality. The Corps isn’t permitted to use overhead or flanking fire or any other form of Stage IV or V firing but M Qual holders CAN use pyro. However, the book also says that cadets - with appropriate permissions - can fire L85A2’s, GPMG’s and LSW’s. Adult staff can fire handguns as part of training for NATO shooting competitions, so we really are at the ‘bottom of the food chain’ aren’t we [color=#ff4444][REMOVED][/color]?
I - and many others in the ACO - hold SA(B)90 and could in theory, run Stage IV shoots on Stage III ranges including using pintle-mounted machine-guns but sadly, the ATC book of words doesn’t permit it, for obvious reasons.
Unless the ACO is tasked with defending the Royal Army Sanitary Corps for whom we have to place ‘sharp end’ and ‘blunt end’ stickers on their wpns because we wouldn’t want you guys to hurt yourselves now, would we?
Right. No more talk of what great people we all are please. Back to the topic of using cameras on a range, or I’m going to lock the thread.
Not even close to my branch.
You get such quals so the MOD is properly covered incase anything goes wrong. Yea you could run them in theory but its kids playing dress up. You have no NEED too.
If attitudes changed then you would see more serving and ex members of the Forces to help out. Several mates of mine would like to help out but get incredibly frustrated because of crap like this.
Your a youth organisation. End of.
[quote=“RearAdmiralScrinson” post=18545]
Your a youth organisation. End of.[/quote]
“You’re”.
Happy to help.
You’re a prat. End of.
Difference is, we KNOW we’re a youth organization but you don’t know you’re a prat.
When they make you redundant from the Army, do us all a favour Scrinson and go to the ACF. We don’t need or want people like you.
[quote=“RearAdmiralScrinson” post=18545]Your a youth organisation. End of.[/quote]We’re aware of that, thanks.
We are however a military-themed youth organisation. Hence we wear military uniforms and do military things. We don’t need to wear uniforms, or do fieldcraft, or have any links to the parent service.
We could just sit around in civvies indoors, drawing health and safety posters.
It would however be much less interesting for the cadets, so many of them would leave.
MattB you seem to have missed every point I make.
Gunner, you seem to have a big chip on your shoulder. Compensating for a glorified MPGS service? You seem to be trying to make this personal.
I came from the ACO, I would like to give back to the ACO. The ACF staff are even worse than you.
Now settle down.