Our squadron is setting up a new flight sim based on X-plane (chosen because it has the easiest set up for the triple screen display we have) but none of us working on it are that savvy when it comes to driver installation and getting the (logitech) instrument panels and Thrustmaster joystick to be recognised. In particular the sequence in which these devices are connected and drivers are installed would appear to be critical. A google search produces 6,397,755,559 results most of which offer conflicting advice! Has anyone here used X-plane and could spend maybe fifteen minutes on the phone or messaging me to give me some basic idea of where to start. Otherwise I forsee months and months of trial and error!
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Have a look on x-plane.org https://forums.x-plane.org/
Every chance someone out there will have done something similar before.
I would recommend considering Prepar3D rather than XPlane. It seems to be the simulation software of choice for the RAFAC.
I thought they were leaning towards Microsoft now?
my Sqn uses Microsoft, but most of what Iâve seen from HQ and the Immersive Technologies Team focuses on P3D.
Indeed.
Lots of good information on the immersive technologies area of Sharepoint. Including pre-made exercises for P3D.
To be fair the software is a relatively small part of the spend on a sim rig, if the OP thinks that x-plane is best suited to their hardware at this point then crack on.
There is no mandated software package for sim training at present, with some wings using the same package and others leaving it to units to choose.
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The choice of X-Plane was that it is generally considered to be the most accurate simulation of airctaft flight dynamics. MS and P3D are better graphics but less authentic. So it depends if you want to use the sim as a tool or as a game, I guess. But as mentioned, the software is cheap so we can try both or all three
When you say Microsoft, I assume you mean FSX?
MS Flight Sim 2020 is clearly light years ahead of any other flight sim, you may need a nuclear fusion cell in your PC to run it thoughâŚ!
and there hangs the issue⌠with three screens side by side, the processing demand is pretty high. I know that even X-plane 11 will render better graphics than we can use, because we have set it high with a resulting drop in frame rate to about 15 fps which is no good.
When you say âlightyears aheadâ this refers to the visuals. X-plane seems to be generally accepted as better flight dynamics and physics.
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X Plane vs FSX/P3D, absolutely 100%.
But vs MS2020, unless youâre building a $10m full motion level D simulator theyâre both so good it makes absolutely no odds. No one would notice a genuine difference.
Itâs the rest of the immersion that MS2020 is years ahead. On maxed out settings with everything going on it is truly astonishing how good it is.
But if your PC can only run X Plane, thatâs more than enough for any perceivable cadet stuff.
Get three screens running with any flight sim really and itâs good enough for what we need.
I would always adjust flight sim graphics settings so you prioritise frame rate over graphics quality. If that results in rubbish graphics then itâs just a âflying in rubbish weatherâ training exercise
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Iâd say this is a âyes, but also noâ situation. You donât need to be pushing frames to the max for the basic stuff. Realistically, a smooth and consistent 30 suits slower aircraft used for learning and practicing better than an occasionally jittery 60 average. The best fidelity you can get with a smooth experience is the key - both aspects affect enjoyment and excitement at getting on the sim
If you start playing around with the faster stuff then more frames is definitely a help due to latency and user reaction speed, but at the same time that consistency is important because you donât want to be hitting a dip in frames just as you come in to land or thread the needle buzzing the tower.
45 is a decent compromise if you can hit it without reaching potato camera quality with stairstepping on every curved or slope.
If you have a monitor above 1080p, itâs also worth testing lower resolution than your monitor max with higher graphics against matched resolution with lower graphics to see if that will suit as well.
All very valid. I use 4K monitors for work (and have plenty of GPU horsepower on tap). But for my sim/messing about with games rig I have an HD screen with a good refresh rate - laptop though so canât do the 3 screen malarkey
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Bit late to this party, but for ms2020 you need a good Internet connection as it streams the scenery âŚ
Xplane works in a slightly different way to most Sims- it uses a calculation method to work out the forces on an approximation of the aircraft whereas most use a form of look up table based on previously calculated values.
Which of these is best is largely irrelevant, they are all really good now and even at the extremes of manoeuvring you wonât notice a real difference between them.- dcs has a military version not available to the civilian market which is used for military training and it uses a form of lockup tableâŚ
For military type aircraft I always advocate dcs- free to get started and the flight model is incredibly goodâŚ
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Iâve just bought the Microsoft package. With some newer PCs on the horizon and a faster internet connection on our PCs Iâm keen to see how it stacks up against our X-Plane 11 set up.
Not if you set it up for offline mode. You can use without real time world updates and streamed scenery.
thatâs interesting, could be a good option
The other advantage (8nbeleive) to X-plane is that itâs really easy to run on three screens (without simply stretching the image across them) and line up angles of view, horizon line etc. MSFS seems to require setting up every time you boot up and is a faff!
I still want to do a rotary set up, not for lessons but for interest.
Found this a while back but a bit too Heath Robinson, but has anyone got a heli sim working?