I recall there being written in a PAM that under certain circumstances and set conditions, external people could be allowed on to a range and live fire for demonstration or good will visits.
For example, basically it allowed a non trained person to use a TS25 range under 1 to 1 supervision to experience air rifle shooting. It even allowed use of L98A2 under 1:1.
I cannot find this in any of the PAMS, does anyone know of what I am talking about?
Basically, I want to run an open day, inviting the local scout group (who have 150 plus scouts) and hopefully poach a few good ones!
By offering a few top level activities on an open day
Air rifle would be one such example. To get around the Iwt time constraint I remembered this. But cant now find it!
Any help. Thanks.
Obviously I’m not doing anything without sign off etc etc.
In addition to the comments below the Scouts would need to ensure the range meets their rules, which might preclude the use of a Cadet one. And they would need their own leaders present.
I’ve never understood this. I used to go to go pistol shooting with a couple of mates and the rules on those ranges indoor and outdoor were exactly the same as any “military” range I ran or had been on.
I would happily take cadets to a range and have them fire, but for some reason that has always eluded me, we can’t. When I’ve asked why not, as above, it’s been because it says you can’t, which is not a valid reason. It has the potential to open shooting as a sport and competitive sport to boot, to cadets and not just something you might do in the cadets if the stars align.
It’s not the running of the range which is the issue, it’s the training of personnel to operate the weapons and the risk management and investigation procedure if something should go wrong. There is too much that isn’t controlled about the range, people, weapons and practice.
The MOD insures shooting based on the SST if it’s not in place then neither is the insurance.
It makes you wonder how anything outside the all wonderful military, operates? I can’t imagine the people running non-military ranges don’t have to do courses and become qualified, have insurance, inspections etc and ensure people adhere to the rules when they are on the range. I know the latter happens.
As I said the ranges I went to with my mates ran exactly the same, in terms of protocols and you were required to wear some form of ear protection before it became so on any range I fired on with cadets.
But we are stuck with rules designed to prevent rather than allow and promote interest.
I think it’s supposed SST that has resulted in the repetition of WHTs, which cannot be regarded as a positive, when everyone I know who is involved in shooting says it takes up too much time for no real gain.
I’ve been to a few fetes where the local paintball club have set up some targets in a a 12x12, with a “firing point” set up at the entrance, and punters pay a few pounds for 10 shots.
I love the way the phrase “civilian club” is used in almost a derogatory way.
So if you take cadets to a club, they can shoot as long as no one uses any MOD qualifications. That’s fine as we don’t have anyone with such qualifications, so we’d need to have the club do it.
However, depending on their military qualifications, the NRA will normally accept them
as direct equivalency to gain a civilian RCO “ticket” - admin fee involved.