So the long awaited Establishment Scales have now been released, and incorporated into ACP 20. My first thoughts are that there seems to be a high weighting towards uniformed staff on Squadrons. a unit of 41+ cadets can have 7 Uniformed staff, whilst only 4 CIs, is this going to see Wings put more people into uniformed roles, now that the gaps exist…
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do you have a link for it I can’t see it on Bader
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when you say CI’s are we talking about CI’s that can claim HTDs?
at present our squadron has about 8 CI’s but only some can claim HTDs
[quote=“big g” post=20506]2 questions
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do you have a link for it I can’t see it on Bader
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when you say CI’s are we talking about CI’s that can claim HTDs?
at present our squadron has about 8 CI’s but only some can claim HTDs[/quote] -
This is for CIs that can claim HTD
Wot they said. You can have an unlimited number of CIs but only so many can claim Home to Duty payments.
did you see the establishment for wing…
19 Sqn Ldrs!!!
that’s nearly 1 per Sqn in our wing!!
oh and thanks for the link!
Need to have somewhere to put the OC’s that won’t step down, but are holding their unit back
What about the door!
I believe that the mess Webley is no longer an option 
It is, but will need approval at least one week in advance via SMS with a RAM attached.
Welcome to my world!
[quote=“big g” post=20506]2 questions
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do you have a link for it I can’t see it on Bader
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when you say CI’s are we talking about CI’s that can claim HTDs?
at present our squadron has about 8 CI’s but only some can claim HTDs[/quote]
[quote]The attendance of civilian instructors on duty at any one parade night may be varied to
suit unit requirements but reimbursement of expenses, in accordance with AP 1919 and
ACP 300, on any one occasion, is limited to the number of instructors provided on the basic unit
establishment.[/quote]
As the above reads from ACP20; All CIs can claim HTD but only up to scaling of your unit per parade night.
So if you have 8 CIs and are scaled for only 3 you will need to manage your CIs so that they can claim HTD when they turn up.
Not quite, it’s done on a mutiplier based on your establishment which gives a maximum number of journeys for CIs over the claim period and as long as all of your CI’s journeys don’t exceed this they can get full remittance.
Given that most people miss parades for holiday, work and other things, unless you have got a huge number over and above your establishment it shouldn’t be a problem.
Frankly I think it’s a nonsense and all CIs, as long as they live far enough away (6 miles round trip), should get HTD for all journeys.
The following paid posts are established on Regions
Rgnl Chairman [PC on] not chairperson [PC off]
The following paid posts are established on Wings
Wg Chairman [PC on] not chairperson [PC off]
Are the post of wing and regional Chairman a paid post as stated in ACP 20 and what is their pay scale?
Does it say how strong Sqns have to be before the OC is automatically promoted to Sqn Ldr?
Does it also happen to say what happens to such Sqn Ldrs when their Sqn strength falls below that threshhold?
Just asking… No particular reason…
[quote=“GOM” post=20540]Does it say how strong Sqns have to be before the OC is automatically promoted to Sqn Ldr?
Does it also happen to say what happens to such Sqn Ldrs when their Sqn strength falls below that threshhold?
Just asking… No particular reason…
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100 cadets for 2 reporting periods
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[quote=“juliet mike” post=20543][quote=“GOM” post=20540]Does it say how strong Sqns have to be before the OC is automatically promoted to Sqn Ldr?
Does it also happen to say what happens to such Sqn Ldrs when their Sqn strength falls below that threshhold?
Just asking… No particular reason…
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100 cadets for 2 reporting periods
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And on the third reporting event an application can be made.
So go on then. How can a sqn move up and down the scaling table?
Yes, fine. Its supposed to be based on two reporting periods, but what is deemed to be a reporting period? We don’t complete the quarterly stats as we used to do, so is it over a six month period, is it based on 01 Jan to 30 Jun/01 Jul to 31 Dec or 01 Apr to 30 Sep/01 Oct to 31 Mar; who knows…
I haven’t seen any movements in a long time. Now HQAC can pull stats off at random, surely people need to know.
Another interesting one is that I have seen a number of sqns in our Wing the wrong side of 30 cadets, so when will they get the push to inprove or become a DF. Surely two periods below 30 cadets shold trigger a downscale to DF status.
Its all just a paperwork exercise to have in place should anyone higher up the food chain ask questions.
Cheers.
I presume that the reverse is true then? Third period below 100 cadets and the Sqn Ldr goes back to being a Flt Lt?
Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.