Who let Teflon back in here 
As an employment judge you should have been able to identify the case even with the most basic level of legal education as to what those abbreviations refer to, let alone the year of the case.
It’s pretty much law 101 for anyone who is in the profession!
Well spell it out for the rest of us following along at home? I’ve got no clue what the hell you’re on about at all. The other people here have linked to direct cases that I’ve read through. You’re just saying things with no proof.
I assume the case you are referring to is
Ministry of pensions vs Ready Mixed concrete
I reference you my earlier answer where it has been ruled in court that case does not apply.
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I’ve literally never seen anyone reduce Ready Mix Concrete to RMC, also, you were 14 years out in the citation, so no, I didn’t realise that’s what you meant.
And it doesn’t apply.
But, please, please, if you are so much cleverer than all of us, prove us wrong with this thing called evidence.
Or, kindly leave and take your nonsense with you.
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And back on topic, I saw from @WhiskeyNovember that no one contacted him whilst NEP. I can confirm that this is still what seems to happen when on ELA (which I understand was introduced as a more friendly alternative to NEP). No contact on the run up to, or after the return date in breach of the process in the ACPs, so clearly not interested in retaining CFAVs.
Additionally no acknowledgement of my resignation so that I still have access to sensitive cadet and staff details if I choose to log into my account.
Good old data protection.
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Please provide full reference for this case or link to full judgment.
Thank you
You’re clearly not even reading this thread whilst arguing as @Chief_Tech was directly referring to a post made before (in reply to you…):
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Actually quite right. I did get the year wrong for which I apologise, as I was thinking or something else but honestly, anyone who has practiced in the last 30 years would know what I’m referencing!
As requested
Paragraph 17 under conclusions
I’m struggling to access my own service record, you aren’t allowed to access Volunteer Portal, or Units once suspended, and despite doing ALL of my mandatory training. (JFC how long is heat injuries?) I’ve not been reinstated whilst I await the transfer process to kick in.
Noone from Wing has spoken to me either.
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EL/LOA was always there it just wasn’t popularised. Default position people pushed was the NEP side which is always been a deferred resignation.
People should have done contact particular in the final 6 months to start the return paperwork but in short order it’s designed that if a volunteer disappears we can resign them off the books.
Because if this NEP you come off systems.
Leave of absence is a semi informal welfare thing to exempt uniform staff from the 12 hour rule
It’s just ELA now I’m pretty sure?
But unsurprising to hear once again that the contact is non-existent. When I stopped attending for personal reasons for a few months, the first contact I had was a suspension letter in the post! Not even a phone call. And the letter was essentially “Start attending or we’ll kick you out”.
Ah yes, retention…
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Yet I can’t get rid of people who aren’t attending, even though I’ve received their resignation form and send it on!
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There is still NEP
NEP - I’m probably going to leave but can I take some time? Formal process & way to keep or retrieve volunteers who are leaving with max 12 months.
The Non-Effective Pool is a formal transfer process so you loose all your system access etc.
LOA/Leave of Absence - I need to take some time out/away but I want to come back - informal process for welfare max 3 months & mainly do the 12 hr rule doesn’t apply.
What needs to happen:-
NEP- automated email once a month to those on NEP cc-ing WExO & OCWg. Should be followed up both a phone call just to check in on people.
LOA - email from Wg once a month keep said person in the loop and critically also a phonecall (or email) from designated SPOC once every two weeks checking on Welfare.
Suspensions - should be like NEP but it should also included the RC who confirms the necessity of the suspension each month.
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This is just not true anymore. It all changed in March. NEP was removed, and replaced with ELA.
You now have “Voluntary Absence” which is an semi-informal thing that OC Wing can sign off for up to 3 months:
Wg COs/HQ 2FTS may grant a CFC officer voluntary absence from RAFAC duties for sickness, maternity/paternity leave or any other personal reason, however, individuals wishing to take a voluntary absence exceeding 3 months in duration should apply for an Extended Leave of Absence (ELA) via the volunteer portal.
And then you have ELA, which is for between 3 and 12 months off and signed off at a regional level:
It is acknowledged that balancing work, life and volunteering commitments can be challenging and, at times, extremely difficult. To help safeguard volunteers at times when balancing these commitments becomes detrimental to their welfare, CFAVs may apply to take an Extended Leave of Absence (ELA) from their role(s) in the RAFAC.
(and in the spirit of naming sources, that’s ACP 20!)
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Ok fab - sorry didn’t twig as it was still showing NEP on sms!
Probably will indefinitely. I assume once we finally (one day?!) move completely over to Units etc it’ll be sorted
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