Question.
All RAFAC uniformed CFAVs both ATC and CCF wear rank slides with RAF Air Cadets on the slide.
What do the ACF and SCC do?
What do the CCF army and CCF Navy do?
Thanks
Links appreciated.
Most commonly Iâve seen they just have âCCFâ on their slides. Sometimes with the school name, sometimes without.
ACF and SCC Senior Rates have âACFâ and âSCCâ on their slides.
They should do. A few old and bold CCF wear CCF on their slides in greens. Often where the SSI just orders a load from custom slide manufacturers and says to do the same for the army and RAF sections. Itâs not as common now that the CFC came in and TEST SNCOs are getting better at enforcement.
CCF( Army) wear CCF on their slides and on the shoulder of their No2 uniform, sometimes with the regiment as well on the rank slides (but not No2) eg:
CCF
PWRR
but I donât know how legitimate that is. Essentially they do the same as the ACF but with one letter different.
SCC, CCF(RM) and CCF(RN) I have no idea
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Its CCF navy Iâm really keen to know as today I saw something that for the first time ever made me want to walk over (in civvies) and dress some one down. I didnt.
But probably should have.
Will explain once I have 100% confirmation on the badging.
I think they have the old Wavy Navy rank slides, same as the SCC
From https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/reference-library/br3vol1/contents/part-6
Doesnât mention any text on the rank slide
Iâm just a former cadet but would like to offer some observations:
In my (former) CCF:
- The navy officers had no letters on their rank slides, just the wavy rank braid.
- The army officers wore âCCFâ under the pips, crowns etc.
- Marines did the same as army (we just had to know which officer belonged to which branch).
N.B. Cadet UOs wore the same rank slide as adult UOs (technically there should be âcadetâ rank slides but I think they were out of stock or something)
Hope they help.
I found it very hard to get hold of the CCFRN dress regs, but I agree, CCFRN CFAVs (who will be officers*) wear the wavy navy rank braid but with no distinguishing letters, in all forms of dress, including rank tabs in combats. (Iâve seen the latter in âblack on greenâ subdued as well as less subdued variants.)
*SSIs could be ex-regular RN and wear their ex-regular RN rank. Any SSI not ex-Army is rocking-horse poo, though.
PS on the CCFRN - I fell out a bit with our visiting AI when he upbraided me for âcadets wearing incorrect cap badgesâ - i.e. the old CCFRN cloth ones - when they should be wearing the regular RN cap badges now (though not the rank-specific ones for PO/CPO/WO).
I pointed out to him that not only had the RN not told me about the change - and at the time I was on their regular mailing list - but the dress regs were not in a location that I, as contingent commander, could access them. He went a bit quiet at that point.
Iâm sure itâs a coincidence that he was the only Marine CSgt I knew in that post - the others have been RN CPOsâŚ
So what happened?
Iâm still trying to work out exactly what this Walter Mitty was wearing.
Imagine a person in MTP.
Naval rank
ccf side patch with little red square badge.
School badge on it also (I think it was that anyway, couldnt make that out).
But their naval rank was like a normal sub lieutenants but with a single VERTICAL short bar through the middle.
Age 28 to 33.
This was in Aldi and he was convincing the till girl that he was just back from deployment on operation with the⌠and I quote ânew aircraft carrier forceâ.
He had desert tan boots on, the suede type specifically for hot environments.
And a white stable belt.
So thatâs what I was going to ask What The Fudge over.
But just couldnt be bothered.
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It was the Naval rank slide with the vertical element I was curious over.
The rest was just super gash mittyism.
Shame you didnât get the school badgeâŚ
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Tbh I was just too shocked
Sounds to me that this wouldnât (I hope) be a CFAV. More likely an ex cadet who kept his kit and bought a weird rank slide off ebay or someone that bought the kit from a surplus store with the badges still on.
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This is my thought.
But I didnât have the knowledge of CCF rank slide identifiers to be sure.
They certainly wernt a part of the forces or cadet forceâs.
Only thing I can think of is the Midshipman insignia, I think they use it for Cadet Under Officers. Doesnât fit with the Sub Lieutenant part of your description though.
Yes, we did that when we had an RN cadet as âhead of corpsâ i.e. senior cadet for a contingent of nearly 200. Then the RN introduced CCFRN cadet ranks of Cdt CPO/Cdt WO so no need any more. (Previously they topped out at Cdt PO which is rather a low rank to be in charge of FS/WO2 in other sections!)
No wasnt that.
But interesting.
It was clearly a Walter Mitty thing.