Not on a Wing / Region remember 
Then maybe ask The Air Cadet Charity directly for a grant? Might be worth it!
Spot on. We’ve been told that the spreadsheet thing shows what will be funded for all activities, regardless if a CACE is required. Maybe just local (mis)interpretation, who knows, but a clear policy would remove all ambiguity!
If you go by the spreadsheet, we can no longer deliver YFA as its not on the list of activities.
The list would also mean that L144 shooting in Scotland is dead as we have no squadrons that hold rifles and we can no longer claim transport for moving the weapons nor claim VA for the day.
Why does it matter what activities we can claim VA for. Surely the fact that we have a allocation of x days it should then be managed at a local level on how best they are used. Does it really matter if one person wants to do 28 days to support local and wing shootimg vs someone that wants to use thier 28 days to support sector level blue and bronze level training along with some trips.
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does it say that?
or does it say you cannot claim for that activity?
disclaimer: i haven’t seen the document but i am guessing it doesn’t say it cannot be done, more that it says a claim for money cannot be made
The spreadsheet lists out all the activities we can do as if they are core or desirable activities.
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but it doesn’t say the activities that aren’t core or desirable can’t be done, just that we can’t claim from the public purse for them
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Where does the spreadsheet come from and what is its status? Absent any local communications on this, I don’t know if it impacts my activities or not.
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It does say that the assumption is that L144 will be delivered at unit level hence no VA/Travel etc however it also says that if doing it outside of Unit level then a CACE needs to be submitted so there is obviously scope to claim VA etc if your CACE gets approved, which I dont see any reason it wouldnt given the centrally held weapons in SNI
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It’s linked to through the IBN
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which is the point i was raising
Presumably the ATC has the same problem the CCF face, that only service vehicles can be used to transport weapons & ammunition? (We used to be able to get the headteacher to authorise it for specific named vehicles so we updated that list annually.)
If so, then if transport isn’t authorised for shooting, meaning no service vehicles are available, weapons & ammo can’t be moved.
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Section 1 can use personal transport, section 5 requires service transport.
What @JoeBloggs said.
Also ammo doesn’t require a service vehicle. (Unless you have silly amounts but that brings other issues) and the escort vehicles can be private too.
Ah, wasn’t aware of that distinction.
The CACE seems like a considerable increase in my already considerable admin burden. I’m happy to sacrifice a lot to ensure the cadets have a great experience but when it takes me longer to sort out the admin than the actual event I’m not sure it’s worth my time. Additionally, if it’s so hard to claim VA for legitimate reasons maybe it’s better for me to revert to CI status, continue supporting cadets without the added burdened of command.
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I also believe the transport restriction doesn’t apply to SSIs due to the quasi official role they have as they are not CFAVs.
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Has everyone seen that we’re meant to be using a CACE App as of today? And no, this isn’t an April Fool’s.
Paragraph 16. And of course, there’s no link…
That app was “imminent” in early December. Don’t hold your breath.
IBN 013 - 2024 Camps, Activities, Courses and Events (CACE) Process and Guidance
An update. Still not 100% clear on certain bits.