Cadet Leadership Course, CTC Frimley Park

Adult Staff Execs
1

Not sure if this is the best place for it but I was shocked to recently read the entry standard to the course.

Age - 16 yrs and 18 yrs 9 months
Males -30 pressups followed by a 1.5 mile run in under 11.5 minutes
Females - 15 pressups and 1.5 mile run in 14 minutes

I was shocked as the RN entry standard is

Age - 15 yrs and 24 yrs
Males -1.5 mile run in under 11.13 minutes
Females - 1.5 mile run in 13.15 minutes

and the RAF standard is

Age - 17 yrs and 29 yrs
Males -20 press-ups and 35 sit-ups and 1.5 mile run in under 11.11 minutes
Females - 10 press-ups and 32 sit-ups and 1.5 mile run in 13.23 minutes

Seems a bit steep a standard, what do they do on the course to require this?

2

There is a lot of Physical activity, Field phase with Route marches and the Sandhurst confidence course plus a lot of Orienteering type things- you can visit if you’re interested? I went last year and would reccommend anyone going along to see- I will post the visitor details by PM to anyone interested.

3

yes please

4

If you are in the Army you can see the trawl for staff I am told. Think the visits are only for CFAV but I will ask.

5

I think that the answer is that the RN and RAF standards are weak!

Though bear in mind that the RAFFT gives you one minute to do the press-ups, whereas the Army PFT gives you 2 minutes.

The standards for CLC are still lower than the standards for Army entry (non-infantry).

6

You could say that but there is a difference in the input/output level of the 3 forces. The RN don’t do press ups and sit ups, we do a weighted carry. It does not make them more or less capable than the RAF or Army, each have different requirements.

I am just surprised how high the level was in comparison. I would be interested to hear/see what they do in more depth to require that standard. I have know multiple people that have passed all different forces training (Army, RN and RAF) but cannot achieve the CLC standards.

7

they wouldn’t have passed army training as the run time for that age bracket in training is 10:30