Cadet Forces Expansion - Split From SDR 2025

With statements like this:

Last year, 138,000 young people served in the cadet forces, according to the Ministry of Defence, with many attending sessions at URNUs.

Which are basically a quote from the MOD, I wonder if this is actually poor wording from the MODs side? The beeb reporter is then just going off what they’ve been given?

This whole article is a mess.

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Served :nauseated_face:

Just the ones serving in the canteen at break

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That’s the BBC for you. So glad I opted out of paying for it.

Take that discussion elsewhere please.

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Missed that you were referring to URNUs but thinking about the UAS

Are the in the RAF - yes

Are they cadets - yes

What is their Sqn type - university air.

So they are RAF Air Cadets albeit strictly speaking RAF University Air Cadets (or RAF UAC)

Next thinking - would it make sense to place UAS under an expanded HQAC as part of all non-reservist training.

This would allow greater syncing of syllabus between air cadet training & UAS training boosting recruitment & providing better safe guarding to the university cadets.

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6 FTS does that already, no? And they share more commonality in terms of training, activities etc with the rest of the RAF FTS’ , and RAuxAF IMO. But any close integration between RAFAC and RAF is always welcome!

AEF’s are under the direct control of a UAS, god know when they chave a chance to do the EFS or EFT stuff

Imagine being a cadet who’s been in 6-7 years and still waiting for your first flight, seeing someone on a 1 week work experience get a 50 minute slot in a Tutor!

and get paid to do it…
With no obligation to serve…
Not even wearing an RAF Unit or cadet force unit…

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This feels like the right place to share this. Apparently some more specific stuff will be published to help with the 30 by 30 goal.

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Unless it includes a large pot of money, and some leadership with the ability to manage risk, it’s not looking hopeful.

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Ain’t going to happen.

With all the potential cost savings needed in the 2026 Defence Review (or whatever it is called this year), there’s no way that the cadet organisations are going to get bucket loads of cash, resources, more camps on military bases, more staff, more everything.

Just recently, we’ve lost the Cadet Tgt Rifles - not enough :pound_banknote::pound_banknote::pound_banknote:. We can’t even to keep what we have, let alone get more of what we need.

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just to summarise that article, the “three aims” are listed as

  • Firstly, is to how we can recruit and support adult volunteers – without whose amazing work we wouldn’t have the cadets at all.

  • "Secondly, to make sure that we have the correct support including support to infrastructure for our cadets.

  • “Thirdly, to make sure that every young person in this country is aware of the amazing things that they can gain from the cadets.”

is the first one an “aim”?
“our aim is how we can recruit and support adult volunteers”

have i had too little sleep or does that sentence make no sense?

surely that should read
"our aim is to improve how we recruit and support adult volunteers

the third aim is also a bit of a non aim, simply improve/increasing promotion and advertising of the Cadet forces - a couple of well placed ads on Social Media

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Well let’s see what happens when the DIP comes out!!

I see Healey has gone!!! I would who’ll be next.

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Suggests the ‘settlement’ could be at the lower end of what was being looked at (£12-13bn vs the reported £18bn, with a shortfall of £24bn or so?)

Healey is one of Starmer’s closest allies, so for him to resign is absolutely huge

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I’m not linking as it is on X but Healey’s resignation letter does not pull its punches.

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I’m hoping Al Carns is next and that he launches the overdue leadership challenge.

I hope Al Carns resigns too out of principle

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