No it isn’t. They breached the clean rooms at Teledyne disrupting production of F-35. They have repeatedly committed serious damage to Elbit systems and based on the Telegraph article they were looking at other RAF sites to attack.
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And assaulted a police officer with a sledgehammer while doing so at the Bristol factory
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They also caused gracious bodily harm to a police officer & security guard
They are in short a feral culture that feeds & encourages others to commit more extreme acts each time.
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I worded that poorly. This is the only direct action that’s being seen as terrorism.
I’m not supporting what they are doing. (Certainly if I was, I wouldn’t say, as that would now make me a criminal!) But what I’m saying is I don’t like how easily a whole group as been proscribed.
Direct action has long been a thing in this country. And it’s led to changes which we now take for granted. Those involved in direct action know the risks. And they should be punished for breaking individual laws.
But I cannot get my head around MPs deciding a whole group are terrorists, and anyone supporting them are breaking the law, when none of them have been prosecuted for such. And even if some of them had been, I still think it’s an overreach.
Just look back at the likes of the suffragettes and how they were talked about at the time.
And yet, the bit I really can’t get my head around, is how our news cycle is focused so hard on the likes of this, and the glasto stuff, when the IDF are still actively sending missiles West and killing civilians. Every day. It boggles the mind from my pov.
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To counterpoint if they had sprayed the aircraft but not the engines & claimed it was an against “the uk under funding defence so they aren’t confident or powerful enough to stand up to Israel & the US” they might have got away with it from a political media point of view.
It’s a massive overreach, and the government knew it, and guaranteed the proscription by including two other groups in the vote that are clearly more dangerous.
I predict it will backfire in several ways:
- a splintering/renaming of the group.
- copycat groups
- everyone buying Palestine Action T-Shirts and making enforcement impossible, ‘I am Spartacus’ style.
I also envisage the High Court putting a block on it tomorrow.
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Oh, look:
Already happening by the looks of it:
Question.
As curious.
Why is it ‘terrorism’ and not ‘sabotage’?
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Because the Government decided that it was.
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If only we had some kind of national cyber force to take stuff like that down …
Simply that.
Oh ok.
I was wondering if it was something to do with whether they never indended the damage to be hidden and so the aircraft get airbourne with the damage undetected or something.
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These are all things that would be best considered in a courtroom, which so far, has not happened!
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Nope.
The definition is in section 1 of the terrorism act, it’s all about causing very serious damage kr violence with an aim of influencing political opinion.
But other groups cause millions of pounds worth of damage aren’t proscribed.
For example, there’s an estimate that the cost when the anti-ULEZ lot cut down 4500 cameras, that cost £45million, more than twice the upper estimates of the damage to the Voyagers.
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The point is every single item on the store is sold out.
The problem with that is the judiciary aren’t interested in protecting national security and don’t care how bad their decisions look to the public, as they’re completely unaccountable.
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We could be waiting years for that. Trial of mine yesterday was scheduled for January 2027.
What a load of utter nonsense.
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Sure sure.
Im not debating the falousy of that.
Just was literaly curious about the reason why sabotage not used.
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This is a good thing… Is it not?
Courts shouldn’t worry about how it looks to the public. This is exactly why these things should be sorted in court. MPs do care how things look to the public, which can lead to people being punished to protect-face, rather than being punished based on actual laws.
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